# South Park 10/24 Imaginationland part II **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 25, 2007, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920 "2007-10-25T03:01:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Flander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Flander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flander)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/21 "2007-10-25T15:50:52Z")
“Let’s make her eat her own eye ball, THEN piss in her empty eye socket!!” ROFL ETA: Also loved the Saving Private Ryan homage with Ronald MacDonald picking up his own arm! ---
**Author:** ![Labtrash](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/labtrash/32/528_2.png) [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/22 "2007-10-25T15:57:14Z")
The council of 9 met at Rivendell, didn’t they? ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/23 "2007-10-25T17:31:35Z")
[QUOTE=labtrash] The council of 9 met at Rivendell, didn’t they? [/QUOTE] It wasn’t called Rivendell (it was the Castle of Sunshine) but Rivendell was clearly what it was supposed to be. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/24 "2007-10-25T18:05:48Z")
[QUOTE=drm] It wasn’t called Rivendell (it was the Castle of Sunshine) but Rivendell was clearly what it was supposed to be. [/QUOTE] The movie version, yes, but they went out of their way to call it something else. However, I missed both Gandalf and the Hobbit cartoon orc, so my bad. Jim ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/25 "2007-10-25T18:11:50Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] \ I think they decided the joke outweighed the consistency. I don’t think they sweat things like that too much. This is the same show where Jesus died save Santa, isn’t it? Then he showed up again. Jim [/QUOTE] Well, Santa is a real character to the South Park world, too. And I always thought they’d resurrect Jesus on Easter, even if it took 5 years to do it. And Jesus coming back isn’t that out of the ordinary, just look at Kenny. Wikipedia made note of it in the continuity segment about the episode, too. > [@](#): > > Jesus is a member of the Council of Nine, though he was always treated as a real existing person throughout the show and not as an imaginary character. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/26 "2007-10-25T20:35:25Z")
Look at it this way: **Hitler** could be a figure in Imaginationland – not the actual, historical Hitler, who remains dead, but the Hitler of popular imagination. I recall in Neil Gaiman’s novel [_American Gods,_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Gods) Shadow at one point meets up with Johnny Appleseed. There was a [real Johnny Appleseed, who died in 1845,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_appleseed) but the immortal folk-hero Johnny Appleseed is a different being. ---
**Author:** ![TripleTee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac8455/32.png) [@TripleTee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TripleTee)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/27 "2007-10-25T20:41:19Z")
[QUOTE=dead0man] I thought it was Jack Skeleton from A Nightmare Before Christmas, the wife thought it was the Headless Horseman. She’s usually right about these things. [/QUOTE] Yah I wasnt sure. Thats why I only described him rather than tried to name him. I figured I just hadnt seen the right movie or cartoon. ---
**Author:** ![TripleTee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac8455/32.png) [@TripleTee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TripleTee)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/28 "2007-10-25T20:44:50Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] Good catch, I knew it was familar, but I was sure from what. It was pretty close… [/QUOTE] It wasnt just close. It was almost verbatim from The Abyss. Right down to Kyle’s skin looking totally pale. As soon as Cartman said that Kyle has a strong heart and wants to live I knew what they were lampooning. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/29 "2007-10-26T00:39:37Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Look at it this way: **Hitler** could be a figure in Imaginationland – not the actual, historical Hitler, who remains dead, but the Hitler of popular imagination. [/QUOTE] I should have said, “American popular imagination,” since that’s what Imaginationland is really about. Said Hitler closely resembles the real Hitler, but, like Charlie Chaplin’s character in _The Great Dictator,_ he speaks mock-German when giving a speech and English at all other times. (S&P could’ve done something with that, come to think of it . . .) ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/30 "2007-10-26T02:37:14Z")
> [@What Exit?](#): > > Who was Snarf? I couldn’t place him. The cat-like creature walking with Butters and The Lollypop King who kept saying “Snarf”. He’s a character from the 1985 cartoon Thundercats (which continues to proove to me how South Park’s target audience is immature 30+ year olds. I think the kids watch that Aqua Teen crap). [QUOTE=FlyingCowOfDoom] Also, did anyone else think the whole Kyle dying and being resuscitated scene was lifted directly from _The Abyss_? It’s been a while since I’ve seen that movie, but it reminded me of it. [/QUOTE] It was completed lifted from the Abyss (another late 80s movie). What movie were they parodying with the wild zooming and steadycam shots during the ManBearPig attack? That was great ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/31 "2007-10-26T05:23:29Z")
> [@](#): > > It wasnt just close. It was almost verbatim from The Abyss. I was a little disappointed that Cartman didn’t pound on Kyle’s chest and shout, “You never gave up on anything in your life you JEW! Now Fight! FIGHT! FIIIIIIIIGHHHHTTT!” I’m wondering how they’re going to resolve the Cartman/Kyle thing. I’m picturing maybe Kyle’s jew-lawyer dad showing up and spouting some legal-ese, pointing out: [ul] [li]Being under 18 Kyle can’t sign a legal contract[/li][li]Being that it’s for an illegal (underage) sex act its not a viable contract[/li][li]Being that he tried to solicit said illegal sex act Cartman is in fact in violation of the law[/li][/ul] Or maybe they’ll have Cartman unknowingly suck the balls of the imaginary ‘dying from AIDS’ Kyle from the very end of Woodland Critter Xmas, then have him freak thinking he’s caught AIDS from him! Regardless, so far it’s been Best. South Park Trilogy. Ever. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/32 "2007-10-26T07:29:18Z")
[QUOTE=msmith537] The cat-like creature walking with Butters and The Lollypop King who kept saying “Snarf”. He’s a character from the 1985 cartoon Thundercats (which continues to proove to me how South Park’s target audience is immature 30+ year olds. I think the kids watch that Aqua Teen crap). [/QUOTE] 50 year old here. I’m a devoted South Park watcher and a Robot Chicken fan also. The Thundercats have been parodied on RC a couple of times. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/33 "2007-10-26T18:07:59Z")
Having Kurt Russell be part of the team that went through the Imagination (Star) Gate was just inspired. Especially when he was describing the whole meeting and then attack by the Woodland Creatures. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/34 "2007-10-26T18:53:23Z")
[QUOTE=Sean Factotum] Having Kurt Russell be part of the team that went through the Imagination (Star) Gate was just inspired. Especially when he was describing the whole meeting and then attack by the Woodland Creatures. [/QUOTE] I never thought “They’re raping me! They’re raping me and it hurts!” could just be so damn funny. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/35 "2007-10-26T19:48:14Z")
In a town that’s seen Jesus, God, Satan, space aliens, Mecha-Streisand, and underwear gnomes, I wouldn’t be laying down any bets against a leprechaun showing up. Especially a ball-sucking bet. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/36 "2007-10-26T21:12:32Z")
“You can use the conference room.” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/37 "2007-10-26T21:14:11Z")
[QUOTE=msmith537] What movie were they parodying with the wild zooming and steadycam shots during the ManBearPig attack? [/QUOTE] Probably a great many movies (especially modern sword & sandal flicks), but arguably the original inspiration was **Monty Python & the Holy Grail** ’s scene of the Killer Rabbit. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/38 "2007-10-27T02:34:42Z")
[QUOTE=Snooooopy] So is Kyle going to wriggle out of the ball-sucking contract because he was temporarily dead? An early episode of _Star Trek: TNG_ rested on such a plot point. [/QUOTE] Actually, I think all they have to do is point out that the leprechan came from Imaginationland and therefore _was not real!_ Given that the trilogy hinges on terrorists attacking our imagination (Am I the only one to grasp that the thrust of this trilogy is revolving around the concepts of terrorists and imagination?), I think Kyle will be able to (at some point) successfully argue that the leprechan being a product of the imagination isn’t real, so he doesn’t have to suck Cartman’s balls. **Or** , post-ballsucking, it will be pointed out that the leprechan wasn’t real and therefore Kyle _didn’t_ have to suck Cartman’s balls at all. I think that the final resolution will depend upon Parker and Stone’s mood at the moment, since, IIRC, the _only_ time Cartman’s come out on top in one of his schemes is the whole “Scott Tenerman Must Die” episode. In checking the Wiki list I see that Christine made an appearance, which I missed, so I’m going to have to rewatch the ep (Hey! I’m a Mopar fan, alright?) ---
**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/39 "2007-10-27T18:15:58Z")
[QUOTE=LateComer] wikipedia already has a [list of characters from part II.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginationland_Episode_II) I sure hope the Woodland Creatures can’t find any AIDS in the forest. [/QUOTE] I assumed that was the purpose of raping Kurt Russell and the soldiers. "They’re raping me and it _hurts!_ " has got to be one of the ten best lines in South Park history! Watching this episode made me realize just how much I’d slacked off on my South Park. I need to start watching it again, 'cause this was as funny as I remember it ever being! Cartman setting up the camera and putting on the robes and crown had me in _stitches_ ! Gotta get the DVD’s! ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920/40 "2007-10-27T19:19:33Z")
[QUOTE=want2know] I assumed that was the purpose of raping Kurt Russell and the soldiers. [/QUOTE] Kinda makes you wonder. If getting raped by an imaginary creature with imaginary HIV, can you get actual HIV? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-24-imaginationland-part-ii/423920.md?page=3)