# South Park 11/11/09 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 12, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-11-11-09/517276 "2009-11-12T03:32:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-11-11-09/517276/21 "2009-11-13T01:13:45Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > We at SDMB love 4th graders, and would be appalled if one was murdered in fiction. However, I seem to recall though that he was a third grader, and we don’t care about those little bastards. Not only that, he was a Ginger, and they don’t even have souls. ---
**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-11-11-09/517276/22 "2009-11-13T03:45:23Z")
So were the Smurfs real, in the South Park universe, and Cartman killed them to frame Wendy, or did he fake the Smurfs? If he faked them, then Cartman has some impressive special effects skills. I’m just asking the question. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-11-11-09/517276/23 "2009-11-13T03:46:35Z")
I’d think Glenn Beck would be on the side of Weyland-Yutani (or whoever) against the smurfs. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-11-11-09/517276/24 "2009-11-13T04:09:39Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > _Avatar_ also has a plot involving a human going and living among the blue creatures as one of them. I think _Dances With Smurfs_ is not an entirely inaccurate summation of the premise. Specifically, Avatar’s plot has the humans discovering a rare, superefficient power source on the blue people’s lands, so they send somebody undercover in preparation for humanity to wipe the blue people out and seize their land/power source, but he “goes native” and joins the blue people. In other words, exactly like Wendy described in her interview. ---
**Author:** ![Windwalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/5e9695/32.png) [@Windwalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Windwalker)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-11-11-09/517276/25 "2009-11-13T06:28:14Z")
> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#): > > So were the Smurfs real, in the South Park universe, and Cartman killed them to frame Wendy, or did he fake the Smurfs? If he faked them, then Cartman has some impressive special effects skills. I’m just asking the question. I was wondering this, too. Those Smurfs were incredibly lifelike, even more so than the “real” South Park inhabitants. I’m glad Trey and Matt are finally turning on a conservative; I still can’t believe that they never went for Bush at all during his epic 8-year reign. Not that I really care about the politics this cartoon espouses, so much as their not tapping the incredibly rich comedic vein that is right-wing America. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-11-11-09/517276/26 "2009-11-13T19:14:25Z")
> [@Windwalker](#): > > I was wondering this, too. Those Smurfs were incredibly lifelike, even more so than the “real” South Park inhabitants. > > I’m glad Trey and Matt are finally turning on a conservative; I still can’t believe that they never went for Bush at all during his epic 8-year reign. Not that I really care about the politics this cartoon espouses, so much as their not tapping the incredibly rich comedic vein that is right-wing America. One could argue that Team America was a criticism of the Bush Foreign Policy, and then there was the short lived show “That’s my Bush” which made the man look like a lovable idiot(oh, wait…). ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-11-11-09/517276/27 "2009-11-13T20:15:40Z")
> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#): > > So were the Smurfs real, in the South Park universe, and Cartman killed them to frame Wendy, or did he fake the Smurfs? If he faked them, then Cartman has some impressive special effects skills. I’m just asking the question. I’m leaning toward faked since “Wendy” in the video is clearly Cartman in drag. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-11-11-09/517276/28 "2009-11-16T01:48:46Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > I’m leaning toward faked since “Wendy” in the video is clearly Cartman in drag. Just saw it [online](http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/251890/). The fact that Cartman’s Wendy looks so bad is an indication that the Smurfs were real. I mean, if he was able to make special effects that good, why would his Wendy look so bad? ---
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-11-11-09/517276/29 "2009-11-16T03:12:43Z")
Best episode so far in an otherwise terrible season. They lost track of the fact that the show has always been about the kids first, not making fun of shows or people nobody cares about. ---
**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-11-11-09/517276/30 "2009-11-16T03:49:42Z")
Yeah well a common conversation I overhear is “so who did they take a jab at in the new South Park?” so the fans are egging them on too. Their best episodes are the ones that are just about the kids being kids. All of the episodes where they find something new to be obsessed with (guitar hero, pokemon, ninja weapons, etc) are by far my favs. I was hoping that this is where this week’s episode would go, but then they had to make it all weird… ---
**Author:** ![Cugel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cugel/32/1199_2.png) [@Cugel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cugel)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-11-11-09/517276/31 "2009-11-16T04:00:02Z")
> [@fusoya](#): > > Their best episodes are the ones that are just about the kids being kids. I agree. No idea who the Glen Beck oft mentioned in this thread is, what Avatar is, nor the Whale thing from last week.. lots of blank looks thereby ensuing. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-11-11-09/517276/32 "2009-11-16T04:13:03Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > I’m leaning toward faked since “Wendy” in the video is clearly Cartman in drag. Suck my fat tits! ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-11-11-09/517276/33 "2009-11-16T14:43:40Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Just saw it [online](http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/251890/). The fact that Cartman’s Wendy looks so bad is an indication that the Smurfs were real. I mean, if he was able to make special effects that good, why would his Wendy look so bad? So, does that mean that Cartman had the Smurfs himself so that he could film it. ---
**Author:** ![Windwalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/5e9695/32.png) [@Windwalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Windwalker)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-11-11-09/517276/34 "2009-11-16T18:02:32Z")
> [@fusoya](#): > > Yeah well a common conversation I overhear is “so who did they take a jab at in the new South Park?” so the fans are egging them on too. Their best episodes are the ones that are just about the kids being kids. All of the episodes where they find something new to be obsessed with (guitar hero, pokemon, ninja weapons, etc) are by far my favs. I was hoping that this is where this week’s episode would go, but then they had to make it all weird… South Park weird goes in two directions; random, pointless, and ultimately unfunny (e.g. Eat, Pray, Queef) vs. through-the-looking-glass brilliant (e.g. Christmas Critters episode). I’d say the Smurf thing was much closer to the latter than the former; the Cartman in Smurfville scenes were really pretty awesome. It also brings back flashes of Scott Tenorman, with regards to the lengths Cartman will go to for revenge. I actually think they may have been real Smurfs now… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-11-11-09/517276/35 "2009-11-16T19:05:36Z")
I thought they were going to have Wendy mention how the Smurfs were pretty danger socialistic. And I have to say how much I love Butters. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-11-11-09/517276.md?page=1)