# South Park 12/1/04 (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 2, 2004, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633 "2004-12-02T03:32:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/21 "2004-12-02T17:00:44Z")
> [@beergeek279](#): > > As soon as I heard the name “Paris Hilton” in the episode, I knew this one was going to be rough…but I had no idea it would be THAT vicious! (I’m trying to think of a more brutal celebrity attack SP episode, and honestly I can’t). They did a good job of making Mel Gibson look like a power mad nut case. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/22 "2004-12-02T17:17:56Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > They did a good job of making Mel Gibson look like a power mad nut case. Eh. The Mel Gibson parody was too off-the-wall; there wasn’t anything like the real Mel Gibson in there for real viciousness or satire. But their Paris Hilton was right on the money - down to the pineapple, I’d wager. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/23 "2004-12-02T18:02:06Z")
Does anyone remember the “sticking food up your butt and pooping out your mouth” episode, where Martha Stewart made a whole turkey… um… disappear? Even more impressive than Paris’ feat with the pineapple, considering the… um… orifice. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/24 "2004-12-02T18:32:26Z")
Something just hit me - isn’t this the first time in all 120+ episodes that we’ve seen Mr and Mrs Testaburger? ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/25 "2004-12-02T19:28:06Z")
> [@Evil Death](#): > > Something just hit me - isn’t this the first time in all 120+ episodes that we’ve seen Mr and Mrs Testaburger? I think so. Wendy never hade parents visible before this, that I’m aware of. ---
**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/26 "2004-12-02T20:04:04Z")
I think the episode sent the wrong message. I mean, we’re _trying_ to get more girls to be sluts, dammit! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Berkut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@Berkut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Berkut)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/27 "2004-12-02T20:10:00Z")
I laughed so hard I thought I was going to choke. That little dog killing himself was hysterical. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/28 "2004-12-02T20:17:46Z")
I cannot be_lieve_ Butters poked Paris in the coochie. Talk about a jaw-dropper. “_—skish skish—_” Of course, the irony of a show attacking Paris Hilton for being famous for no reason is that it spends a whole half hour talking about somebody who doesn’t deserve to be famous, thus continuing to cement her social profile. Hmmm… ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/29 "2004-12-02T21:33:16Z")
I think it’s the “moral highground” episodes that I tend to not like. It started with “Gays in Scouts” (or was that episode called “Cripple Fight”?) and it was _great_. The problem is, I think, that they won some sort of award for that episode (was it an Emmy?) and they either decided they wanted more awards or someone above them pressured them but they started pumping out moral issue episode after moral issue episode. For awhile there, I think around the 6th season, I almost quit watching because it seemed like _every_ episode was preachy and full of moral finger-pointing. One thing I’ve noticed about Trey and Matt is that, while they don’t kowtow to specific people or establishments, they seem to love awards. I’m personally convinced that they wrote “I’m so Ronery” (from _Team America_) with an Oscar on their minds. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/30 "2004-12-03T01:39:30Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > When Paris and Butters were sitting on his bed, she passed out and he reached over and lifted up her skirt to look in, Looked to me like Butters wasn’t so much **lifting** her skirt as poking his finger on her, um, squishy thing. ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/31 "2004-12-03T03:42:41Z")
> [@](#): > > But the BEST part was the Frog Prince guiding Paris Hilton through Mr. Slave, with the ‘song’ (you know the one). Will Paris one day make it to the end? This **would** have been the best part except f_cking Comedy f_cking Central’s f_cking announcer f_cking talked all over it!!! Reminded me of how they used to do this over MST3K’s bonus endings. And even though to anyone who cares, its obvious what Paris Hilton is, I thought that South Park was the perfect venue with which to come out and say it. Because its a cartoon they could use the necessary ‘NC-17’ elements to mock her perfectly. I mean, Mr. Slave was the most depraved, amoral character on the show. And yet they wanted to portray Paris as being 100 times more stupid, worthless and whore-like. And they totally pulled it off! ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/32 "2004-12-03T04:59:37Z")
I agree with you all! Over-all weak, but damn funny in spots. Any episode, like food, is better with more Butters! Was expecting a little more from Wendy’s parents. Thought Paris had nothin’ on Martha Stewart. Was happy to see the Frog King again. Thought Mr. Slave had too much screen-time, but he had to, I guess. My advice to Matt and Trey (like they really care): More Chef and less “guest stars”. I’m going out to the shop to play drums and drink beer now… ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/33 "2004-12-03T05:20:55Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > I think it’s the “moral highground” episodes that I tend to not like. It started with “Gays in Scouts” (or was that episode called “Cripple Fight”?) and it was _great_. The problem is, I think, that they won some sort of award for that episode (was it an Emmy?) and they either decided they wanted more awards or someone above them pressured them but they started pumping out moral issue episode after moral issue episode. For awhile there, I think around the 6th season, I almost quit watching because it seemed like _every_ episode was preachy and full of moral finger-pointing. > . What are you talking about? They’ve done issue episodes since the beginnings. ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/34 "2004-12-03T05:39:34Z")
> [@Evil Death](#): > > Really? I thought “The Jeffersons” was far nastier in comparison - at least we know for sure that Paris Hilton is guilty as charged, what with her having said that “that [sex] tape made me”. Not really. They never said or implied anything about Michael Jackson being a child molester. They laid in to him for being a grown man over obsessed with his childhood, but only really because he’s now a father and should be more responsible. And his appearance… but that’s fish-in-the-barrel. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/35 "2004-12-03T07:49:14Z")
> [@Silentgoldfish](#): > > Not really. They never said or implied anything about Michael Jackson being a child molester. They laid in to him for being a grown man over obsessed with his childhood, but only really because he’s now a father and should be more responsible. And his appearance… but that’s fish-in-the-barrel. That’s ignorance. Ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/36 "2004-12-03T11:39:23Z")
> [@Silentgoldfish](#): > > Not really. They never said or implied anything about Michael Jackson being a child molester. Apart from kidnapping kids and sleeping with them, you mean? ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/37 "2004-12-03T11:51:18Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > What are you talking about? They’ve done issue episodes since the beginnings. Go back and watch the earlier stuff again. They did “issues”\* but you’ll notice a huge difference in the way they approached them and preached at the audience starting with the Gays in Scouts episodes. Trust me, it’s there. [sub]Underpants Gnomes and Sexual Harassment Panda were both before Gays in Scouts, I think, but that’s all I can think of at the moment, unless you’re going to be petty and count stuff like dodgeball[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Licentious\_Ectomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5e9695/32.png) [@Licentious\_Ectomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Licentious_Ectomorph)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/38 "2004-12-03T15:52:14Z")
I’d love to know if Paris Hilton saw the episode. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/39 "2004-12-03T22:19:58Z")
> [@Evil Death](#): > > Apart from kidnapping kids and sleeping with them, you mean? He never kidnapped anyone in the episode, and he’s admitted to sleeping with kids in a non-sexual way. All I’m saying is that they never attacked him for things that haven’t been proven yet. Hell, the end of the episode has him promising to be a better father and leading everyone in a singalong! ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633/40 "2004-12-03T22:25:21Z")
> [@Nordic](#): > > I’d love to know if Paris Hilton saw the episode. 😛 I hear she tried to watch it, but got distracted when her pet dog killed itself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-12-1-04-open-spoilers/277633.md?page=3)