# South Park 14/04 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 15, 2004, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100 "2004-04-15T02:47:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/21 "2004-04-16T04:19:14Z")
> [@tracer](#): > > I had to look up “catamount” in the dictionary when I saw this. Man, I had no idea there were so many different words for mountain-lion! I knew catamount, but had to go look up “catamite.” Now I feel dirty. Anyway, now I’m guessing that “catamount” studios was a combination of catamite and Paramount, which happened to also be a word for a mountain lion. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/22 "2004-04-16T04:57:56Z")
> [@Silentgoldfish](#): > > They had a very special episode where Kenny died of a terminal disease and Stan had to come to terms with him dying. The next season they replaced Kenny with Butters and then Tweak. At the end of the season Kenny came back (literally, walked in to frame, Stan:“Oh, hey, where have you been?”) and he hasn’t died since. Not true, I know he did at least once. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/23 "2004-04-16T06:09:05Z")
Remember the Pleasure Model scene? Matt & Trey know what “catamite” means. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/24 "2004-04-16T10:18:05Z")
I honestly thought this was the weakest S8 episode so far. Good Times With Weapons was the first new ep I watched after a break of years and it was great, as was The Passion of the Jew, and YGFITA was funny also. This one, and Up the Down Steroid, just seemed lacking. ---
**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/25 "2004-04-16T10:32:03Z")
> [@](#): > > I have to wonder, though, if Trey and Parker know what “Catamount” means. I guess it’s a take-off on “Paramount”, but possibly they also had it confused with “catamite”. Trey and Parker are different people 😕😕 > [@](#): > > Not true, I know he did at least once. Yea, it was on the Christmas episode. Kyle (I think) says, “Well looks like everything is back to normal” ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/26 "2004-04-16T19:58:54Z")
> [@Odinoneeye](#): > > Yea, it was on the Christmas episode. Kyle (I think) says, “Well looks like everything is back to normal” The Christmas episode was great. Though I don’t remember that part; if you’re remembering correctly then that’s pretty funny. He used to only _live_ in the Christmas episodes, now maybe he’ll only _die_ in them. All-in-all I’d say this is the best season in awhile. Season 7 was lacking pretty bad and I was beginning to worry that one of my favorite shows of all time was on its way out but it’s back in a big way now. Long live South Park. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/27 "2004-04-16T21:41:36Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > Remember the Pleasure Model scene? Matt & Trey know what “catamite” means. And Cartman sure has done a lot of that in the series. NAMBLA, Ben Affleck, the studio exec… ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/28 "2004-04-16T22:33:22Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > And Cartman sure has done a lot of that in the series. NAMBLA, Ben Affleck, the studio exec… In fairness to Cartman, he didn’t have a clue what NAMBLA was about and he had to do the studio exec or break his cover. With that in mind, I thought his Britney Spears dance was entirely contrived - not to mention recycled, as this isn’t the first time Cartman’s been filmed doing something embarrassing. That’s why I think this ep is weak. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/29 "2004-04-17T01:01:32Z")
> [@Evil Death](#): > > In fairness to Cartman, he didn’t have a clue what NAMBLA was about and he had to do the studio exec or break his cover. We don’t know what happened with the Studio Exec. For all we know, Cartm-- er, I mean, AWESOM-O might’ve belted out “LAME!” and ambled away as soon as the Studio Exec whipped out his Studio Sausage. AWESOM-O could always say that he wasn’t a “pleasure model”. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/30 "2004-04-17T01:44:17Z")
Heh heh. What about the eppy where Cartman became delusional and took on the identity of a Vietnamese whore? He’s just constitutionally inclined for that sort of service. It’s probably a genetic inheritance. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/31 "2004-04-17T07:22:00Z")
And then there’s Cartman playing **Silence of the Lambs**. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/32 "2004-04-17T13:00:16Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > He’s just constitutionally inclined for that sort of service. It’s probably a genetic inheritance. 😃 How can you be so sure? We still don’t know who his mother is. ---
**Author:** ![jmizzou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@jmizzou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jmizzou)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/33 "2004-04-17T15:04:14Z")
And let’s not forget the time Cartman sucked semen out of a “hose.” > [@Evil Death](#): > > How can you be so sure? We still don’t know who his mother is. Well, we _do_ know who his father is, and look at the dirty slut she turned out to be. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/34 "2004-04-17T16:13:17Z")
> [@jmizzou](#): > > And let’s not forget the time Cartman sucked semen out of a “hose.” Where again, he didn’t know what was going on. I get the impression that Lee-Anne Cartman [1] has completely shielded her son from anything “adult” in nature - so despite everything, he’s totally naive. [1] Wasn’t her name originally given as Diane? I’m sure it was, you know. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/35 "2004-04-17T19:05:48Z")
> [@Evil Death](#): > > Where again, he didn’t know what was going on. I get the impression that Lee-Anne Cartman [1] has completely shielded her son from anything “adult” in nature - so despite everything, he’s totally naive. > [1] Wasn’t her name originally given as Diane? I’m sure it was, you know. When Cartman made sea people… ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/36 "2004-04-17T19:58:15Z")
> [@Evil Death](#): > > Wasn’t her name originally given as Diane? I’m sure it was, you know. Nope-- it’s been “Liane” from the start, and early scenes in the Cartman living-room featured a framed photo of the real-life Liane, Liane Adamo, who famously broke off her engagment to Trey Parker way back. I think the “grudge” he’s been carrying is entirely for show, as they seem to be on friendly terms. She [appears in both _Orgazmo_ and _Cannibal: The Musical_,](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0010670/) and she did choreography for _Cannibal_. I’m sure she laughs her ass off at Liane Cartman, just like everybody else. 😃 Here’s a [pic of Liane and Trey](http://fp3.antelecom.net/dumptv/mattrey/gallery626/treyprom.jpg) when they were high school sweeties. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/37 "2004-04-17T22:33:22Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > Nope-- it’s been “Liane” from the start, and early scenes in the Cartman living-room featured a framed photo of the real-life Liane, Liane Adamo, who famously broke off her engagment to Trey Parker way back. I think the “grudge” he’s been carrying is entirely for show, as they seem to be on friendly terms. She [appears in both _Orgazmo_ and _Cannibal: The Musical_,](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0010670/) and she did choreography for _Cannibal_. I’m sure she laughs her ass off at Liane Cartman, just like everybody else. 😃 > > Here’s a [pic of Liane and Trey](http://fp3.antelecom.net/dumptv/mattrey/gallery626/treyprom.jpg) when they were high school sweeties. Interesting. Considering the running Joke with the Horse Liane in “Cannibal”, I would have thought it was worse then that. ---
**Author:** ![Tentacle\_Monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@Tentacle\_Monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tentacle_Monster)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/38 "2004-04-17T23:56:02Z")
> [@Odinoneeye](#): > > Trey and Parker are different people 😕😕 Yes they are. Get thee to the video store and rent **BASEketball**. It’s a bit juvenile, but I am _not ashamed to admit that I like it._ ---
**Author:** ![WILLASS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/54ee81/32.png) [@WILLASS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WILLASS)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2004, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/39 "2004-04-18T00:06:15Z")
Trey and Parker are one person: Trey Parker, the other guy who writes Southpark is Matt Stone. (I’m not being pedantic as i’m sure you know but didn’t realise you’re typo) ---
**Author:** ![BellaDellaItalia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/fbc32d/32.png) [@BellaDellaItalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BellaDellaItalia)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2004, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100/40 "2004-04-18T00:07:05Z")
Ummmm. It’s Trey Parker and Matt Stone. They’re different people, but Trey and Parker aren’t. If anyone wants the script for this episode it’s at [www.spscriptorium.com](http://www.spscriptorium.com) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-14-04/240100.md?page=3)