# South Park 3/22/06 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 23, 2006, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-22-06/349538 "2006-03-23T03:11:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-22-06/349538/141 "2006-03-25T07:57:45Z")
> [@vaderspal](#): > > _Exactly_. I thought it was very clear that they were angry with the CoS and not (necessarily) Isaac Hayes himself, though perhaps they fault him a bit for falling for the, uh, Super Adventure Club’s bullshit. Right. It’s not just that they made it clear they don’t hate Hayes, it’s that they gave an explicit message to their fans “don’t blame him for leaving, blame Scientology for screwing him up and making him leave.” ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-22-06/349538/142 "2006-03-25T17:24:48Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > It could be a sly inclusion of one of the most common Scientology symbols: [An equilateral triangle divided into four levels](http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7853/oecvol0bookcover7sn.jpg). (See bottom of book’s spine for example.) The levels represent the four “Dynamics” (or survival instincts) described in Dianetics. These are areas that human beings need to cultivate. The first being self; the second, family and sex-pairing; the third, social and professional life; and the fourth, humanity itself. So they’re ripping off [Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs.](http://www.ship.edu/~cgboeree/maslow.html) ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2006, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-22-06/349538/143 "2006-03-26T16:55:56Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > The thing is, the CoS deliberately uses the most generic and archetypical symbols imaginable. Once you’re aware of them, they appear to be ubiquitous. You can see Scientology references in everything. (Even in very cart-before-horse scenarios, because of its extreme syncretism.)\It could be a sly inclusion of one of the most common Scientology symbols: An equilateral triangle divided into four levels. (See bottom of book’s spine for example.) The levels represent the four “Dynamics” (or survival instincts) described in Dianetics. These are areas that human beings need to cultivate. The first being self; the second, family and sex-pairing; the third, social and professional life; and the fourth, humanity itself. (After Dianetics courses are completed, another four dynamics are introduced which are more metaphysical.) > [@Homebrew](#): > > So they’re ripping off Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs. Or for that matter, the classic eastern system of [Chakras.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra) You know, this is how to turn a cult/scam into a religion. What starts out as pure nuttyness gradually adopts the religious and metaphysical concepts and symbols that we collectively resonate with on an unconcious or semiconcious basis; and eventually you end up with something that seems intuitively “true” if you ignore all the specific nutty claims. Sometimes I think I wasn’t kidding when I postulated that the last two religions in America will be Scientology and the Latter-Day Saints, and they’ll end up fighting a religious war. > [@](#): > > Sinister (the left hand), meaning not straightforward, dishonest, is far older than morganatic marriages. The ancient Greek augurs considered all signs seen by them over the left shoulder to be unlucky, and foreboding evil to come. . Does this mean that when I look over my left shoulder to see if anyone’s passing me on the left, I’m in trouble? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2006, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-22-06/349538/144 "2006-03-26T18:46:33Z")
> [@Eleusis](#): > > No malice here, just curious… > > My guess (and hope) is that she’s in the 11-14 range? > > /just happy you said “almost” Close. She’s ten. I was actually kind of worried when she walked in just as Chef fell off the bridge, bounced down the cliff, and impaled himself on the sharp pointy thing, then got his face torn off by the mountain lion … because, well, that was pretty shocking and disturbing for ME to watch. But she seemed to be fine with that; she was just upset about Chef being dead. I told her that Chef was technically still alive inside his Darth Chef suit. ---
**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-22-06/349538/145 "2006-03-27T00:35:28Z")
That’s cool, I wanted to delete that post because I thought it might sound judgemental - hence the backpedaling in the next one. I’m happy you weren’t offended. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-22-06/349538/146 "2006-03-27T17:53:21Z")
> [@Kid\_A](#): > > I just realized that Giovanni Ribisi’s sister is Marissa Ribisi who is married to Beck. A big old Scientology party when they’re together. Oh Beck, I’m so torn on whether or not I should ever buy another of your albums. I don’t know if this will make any differance for you but the Ribisis and Beck are both second generation in CoS. So they were being taught this stuff from a pretty early age. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-22-06/349538/147 "2006-03-27T23:28:19Z")
> [@Least Original User Name Ever](#): > > thems sea org people are odd. an almost full-fledged navy at th ebeck and call of the scientologists. I live near Clearwater – Scientology’s Rome – and often you can see Sci-ists walking around downtown in blue uniforms that look like Air Force uniforms. I don’t know if they’re Sea Org or if that’s just what you wear if you’re a Church official. Either way, it’s creepy. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-22-06/349538/148 "2006-03-27T23:30:44Z")
> [@anyrose](#): > > Too bad this episode will never get nominated for an Emmy… Hmm? Whyever not? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-22-06/349538/149 "2006-03-27T23:32:51Z")
> [@middleman](#): > > The actors who play Hyde and Donna are both in the CoS. :eek: That does it! Laura Prepon is no longer my secret fiancee! ---
**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-22-06/349538/150 "2006-03-27T23:36:15Z")
> [@Kolak of Twilo](#): > > I don’t know if this will make any differance for you but the Ribisis and Beck are both second generation in CoS. So they were being taught this stuff from a pretty early age. Wow, I didn’t know that. I knew Beck had an interesting childhood spiritually but I didn’t know about the Scientology connection. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-22-06/349538/151 "2006-03-29T16:44:00Z")
There’s a page here where they’re trying to find all the Chef sound clips they spliced together: [http://www.seedwiki.com/wiki/southpark](http://www.seedwiki.com/wiki/southpark) (they only found a few so far) Looks like he really did say “I can’t break these locks” once, though. Amazing episode. Their love of Hayes, even through the betrayal they felt came through loud and clear. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-22-06/349538.md?page=7)