# South Park-3/9

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 10, 2005, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799 "2005-03-10T06:22:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/1 "2005-03-10T06:22:19Z")

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Well, that was pretty fucked up.

And speaking of which, so is Mr(s) Garrrison…

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/2 "2005-03-10T06:28:52Z")

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Was that the first time they’ve ever shown Kyle’s hair?

They’re going to get really really really really really angry letters from the transgendered, I do believe.

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**Author:** ![Murcielago](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Murcielago](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Murcielago)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/3 "2005-03-10T06:35:36Z")

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Pretty lame, particularly for a new show after a break. I didn’t find anything very clever and there was too much screen time for Garrison. I only like that character in small doses. Though his slo-mo wail toward Kyle at the end was kinda funny.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/4 "2005-03-10T06:36:50Z")

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[Mr. Garrison] Who wants to pound my vag?[/Mr. Garrison]

I expect it will rile up TGs but I think it was a statement on cosmetic surgery in general, not just gender reassignment. And Mr. Garrison decided that he was happy at the end so it was entirely anti-TG.

Also, it IS South Park. Offending people is what they do.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/5 "2005-03-10T08:36:40Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> And Mr. Garrison decided that he was happy at the end so it was entirely anti-TG.

Shouldn’t that be “wasn’t”?

I’m surprised SP hasn’t really been attacked by the Pro-Choicers.

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**Author:** ![Ooner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c67d28/32.png) [@Ooner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ooner)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/6 "2005-03-10T08:40:48Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Was that the first time they’ve ever shown Kyle’s hair?

I can’t remember which episode, but there was a scene previously where they were having school pictures taken and Kyle took off his hat to reveal a big jewish afro

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**Author:** ![Jurhael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@Jurhael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurhael)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/7 "2005-03-10T10:07:05Z")

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It was the beginning that shocked me! Yikes…

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**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/8 "2005-03-10T10:42:56Z")

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I kind of felt like it was all shock and no funny. I did find some bits far more disgusting than hilarious – the knee/testicle explosion at the end for example. If I wanted entertainment like that I’d just look at the goatsex guy for 20 minutes.

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**Author:** ![EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilHamsterOnCrack)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/9 "2005-03-10T11:33:02Z")

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To each his own, but I thought it was hilarious. Almost every second with Kyle’s dad/dolphin on screen made me laugh outloud. Not to mention Kyle being tall and black.

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**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/10 "2005-03-10T13:01:00Z")

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The only thing that was missing from this episode was a shark and a guy on waterskis.

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/11 "2005-03-10T14:07:18Z")

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Not so great. And I do hope this doesn’t mean the end of us seeing Mr. Slave! Jesus Christ, I love Mr. Slave! And he was right it was a sucky thing for Garrison to do without telling him.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/12 "2005-03-10T15:46:25Z")

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> [@Ooner](#):
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> Kyle took off his hat to reveal a big jewish afro

WTF is a jewish afro?

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**Author:** ![Khampelf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Khampelf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khampelf)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/13 "2005-03-10T15:51:29Z")

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A Social satire featuring a Transgendered Teacher?

Been there, done that. 😃

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/14 "2005-03-10T16:00:57Z")

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> [@adam yax](#):
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> WTF is a jewish afro?

To answer that question, we asked a [young Ben Stein](http://www.benstein.com/btdt3.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/15 "2005-03-10T16:02:39Z")

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> [@The Sonoran Lizard King](#):
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> A Social satire featuring a Transgendered Teacher?
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> Been there, done that. 😃

I kept thinking about how familiar the whole Mr./Mrs. Garrison plot felt, after the past few weeks!

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/16 "2005-03-10T16:09:49Z")

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Kyle’s hair was previously shown in the episode “How to Eat With Your Butt”. It’s a red afro, which is no more “Jewish” than any other non-black color would be.

Can you tell I just got the Season 5 DVD Set?

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/17 "2005-03-10T19:21:07Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> To answer that question, we asked a [young Ben Stein](http://www.benstein.com/btdt3.jpg).

Holy crap! That’s Ben Stein? He’s like Mr. Conservative now. I would’ve figured he was never within 10 feet of a pair of sandals.

The episode seemed to me like a pretty blatant slam on sex-change surgery, and I don’t think they were trying to mitigate it at all. I don’t think those guys care too much about offending people. I didn’t find it any more or less funny than usual - seemed about average to me. They had a couple funny things, but as usual, they took one idea and clubbed it over the head for way too long. But that’s pretty much their style.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/18 "2005-03-10T19:26:13Z")

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> [@Ooner](#):
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> I can’t remember which episode, but there was a scene previously where they were having school pictures taken and Kyle took off his hat to reveal a big jewish afro

They also showed that he had big poofy hair in the episode where the crab people tried to take over the world through _Queer Eye for the Straight Guy_.

I thought the episode was funny as hell. I was really amazed that Kyle’s mom wasn’t a big fat bitch about TG people.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/19 "2005-03-10T19:34:20Z")

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> [@blowero](#):
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> The episode seemed to me like a pretty blatant slam on sex-change surgery, and I don’t think they were trying to mitigate it at all.

I think it was a pretty even-handed, “Realistic” take - what I got from it was pretty much : Some people feel their bodies don’t match their minds, and that’s okay, and they should be tolerated and respected - however, those people have to realize that all they’re getting when they undergo surgery is essentially a cosmetic change. Gerald will never be a real, biological, fully-functional dolphin, and he needs to realize that.

The South Park lads often take the middle-of-the-road approach to issues.

Mrs. Garrison’s disappointment at being unable to get an abortion really struck me funny; also “Well, yes, if you want to be tall and black, otherwise I wouldn’t recommend it.”

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-3-9/293799/20 "2005-03-10T19:35:09Z")

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> [@blowero](#):
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> … I don’t think those guys care too much about offending people.

I know what you are implying but literally I think that they care very much. Offending people seems to be their **goal**.

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