# South Park 4/5/06

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 6, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517 "2006-04-06T02:23:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/21 "2006-04-06T14:10:09Z")

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The animation when Kyle and Cartmann were traveling across the desert seemed a lot different than anything the SP crew has down before. Did anyone else think that it looked more like CGI than what we’re used to seeing?

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/22 "2006-04-06T15:03:08Z")

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I really though it was one of the best ever. The “Family Guy” digs pretty accurate and pretty funny, but I don’t think “Family Guy” was the real target (except to stir up shit between the two shows for fun). There seemed to be a lot of oblique references not just the Scientology episode, but to the now-pulled episode that outraged Catholics, and it seemed more to be a critique on the politics of outrage and the consequences of living in a society that values free expression.

I’ll bet next week’s episode somehow uses Mohammed’s already-made appearance on South Park, as a “Super Best Friend.”

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/23 "2006-04-06T15:14:01Z")

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I di like the self-referential bit where Cartman asks Kyle “How would you like it if there was a show that made fun of Jews every week?” and Kyle just glares at him.

**Sean Factotum** , I was thinking the same thing during Kyle’s nuclear nightmare.

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**Author:** ![XaMcQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/f9ae1b/32.png) [@XaMcQ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XaMcQ)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/24 "2006-04-06T15:55:08Z")

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I really liked the episode. I loved the ‘defend Free Speech vs. bury our heads in sand’ debate. That was dead on. I got a kick out of the Big Wheel chase and the explosion at the end. It’s been done to death, but it was still perfect parody. But my favorite part had to be Cartman’s explanation of his ultimate evil plan was to get ‘Family Guy’ cancelled by having one episode pulled. He correctly predicted that if getting one episode pulled because it offended Muslims, that every other special interest would feel they were entitled to the same right to get anything that offended them taken off the air.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/25 "2006-04-06T17:14:00Z")

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For anyone who doesn’t yet know, South Park and Battlestar Galactica have been Peabody’d.

[http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20060405/en\_tv\_eo/18736](http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20060405/en_tv_eo/18736)

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/26 "2006-04-07T12:01:28Z")

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> [@Larry Borgia](#):
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> **Sean Factotum** , I was thinking the same thing during Kyle’s nuclear nightmare.

So was I, and I think it was deliberate.

It was pretty clearly a Terminator 2 reference, and by extension yet another dig at Family Guy by being a pop culture reference that was actually relevant to the plot.

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/27 "2006-04-07T13:52:51Z")

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I liked it (especially the big wheel chase), but they need to sprinkle in some episodes that are mindlessly funny and not relevant.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/28 "2006-04-07T13:59:49Z")

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> [@Rodgers01](#):
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> Too heavy-handed. Didn’t laugh at all. Not bad, just…not funny this week.
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> One thing that surprised me, though, was that they themselves didn’t show a cartoon version of Mohammed – or did they and I missed it? (I had my back to the TV while I was on the computer for part of the show.) After all, they’ve already shown a cartoon Mohammed before; if they really wanted to push the button, they could have him show up, live next door, chit chat, express opinions – ie, just like they portray Jesus on the show. Hey, that could make a good episode…Jesus and Mohammed get into a fight…or are pushed into a fight by supporters with ulterior motives (like the fight between Tweak and Craig)…hmm… Maybe we can write it on spec…

Can’t do it. Jesus is dead after going to rescue Santa in Iraq.

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**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/29 "2006-04-07T14:16:33Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> Can’t do it. Jesus is dead after going to rescue Santa in Iraq.

Besides that (1) Mohommed is one of Jesus’s super best-friends, and (2) according to canon, Mohommed would _not_ want to distract anyone from God by sharing his opinions about anything. If he doesn’t even want anyone misdirecting their attentions by painting him, what makes you think he wants people to listen to him after his one-time trick of channeling God’s word and then disappearing into heaven?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/30 "2006-04-07T14:22:19Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> The take on _Family Guy_ was pretty dead-on, but as a topic for satire, the Muhammad cartoons feels kinda stale.

😕 “Stale”? There’s still riots going on.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/31 "2006-04-07T14:25:20Z")

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> [@Rodgers01](#):
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> One thing that surprised me, though, was that they themselves didn’t show a cartoon version of Mohammed – or did they and I missed it? (I had my back to the TV while I was on the computer for part of the show.) After all, they’ve already shown a cartoon Mohammed before; if they really wanted to push the button, they could have him show up, live next door, chit chat, express opinions – ie, just like they portray Jesus on the show. Hey, that could make a good episode…Jesus and Mohammed get into a fight…or are pushed into a fight by supporters with ulterior motives (like the fight between Tweak and Craig)…hmm… Maybe we can write it on spec…

If you were an exec at CC, would **you** take the risk of airing that?!

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/32 "2006-04-07T14:27:01Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Could it be… _crab people?_

craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaab peeeeople, craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaab peeeeeople, (etc.)

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**Author:** ![beergeek279](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@beergeek279](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beergeek279)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/33 "2006-04-07T14:34:43Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> Can’t do it. Jesus is dead after going to rescue Santa in Iraq.

Hey, has that ever stopped him before? 😃

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/34 "2006-04-07T14:36:10Z")

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Watched this while working out last night (must have been a quick re-run). I wished I wasn’t working out at the time, because this was one of the best S.P. episodes I’ve seen in a while, and it would have been nice to relax on the couch and belly-laugh.

I cannot stand Family Guy, so the combined mockery of both the Danish Cartoon crisis and that gawdawful show was too perfect. I loved the cut-ins with that Imam who kept offering rather incisive critiques of F.G.'s annoying weaknesses, followed immediately by threats of jihadist reprisals.

Stone and Parker must live in an underground bunker by now, Og love 'em.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/35 "2006-04-07T18:23:12Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> 😕 “Stale”? There’s still riots going on.

As a topic for satire? Yeah, that horse has been beaten into a coma at this point. If the episode had said anything new about the issue, it would be different. But they didn’t say anything you couldn’t have heard on The Daily Show or read on this board two months ago.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/36 "2006-04-07T20:44:54Z")

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you all are focusing on the \*\*Out Of The Closet \*\* episode being pulled from reruns by pressure from the CoS; But don’t forget \*\*Bloody Mary \*\* was pulled by The Church and didn’t even get a Thursday repeat. So yeah, special interest groups are picking away at South Park. But if, heaven forfend, the JAL had **Kyle Sees The Passion** pulled, the Jewish community would be attacked as not having a sense of humor.

> [@Mr. Duality](#):
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> For anyone who doesn’t yet know, South Park and Battlestar Galactica have been Peabody’d.
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> [http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20060405/en\_tv\_eo/18736](http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20060405/en_tv_eo/18736)

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/37 "2006-04-07T20:46:34Z")

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damn gerbils - I meant to add

> [@Mr. Duality](#):
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> For anyone who doesn’t yet know, South Park and Battlestar Galactica have been Peabody’d.
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> [http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20060405/en\_tv\_eo/18736](http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20060405/en_tv_eo/18736)

But Stephen Colbert was not! ☹

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/38 "2006-04-07T21:10:36Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> But don’t forget \*\*Bloody Mary \*\* was pulled by The Church and didn’t even get a Thursday repeat.

I wouldn’t equate [The Catholic League](http://mediamatters.org/items/200412210001) with the Church proper; that’s a tiny bit like using “protestants” and “Fred Phelps” interchangeably. 😃 (Though for some reason people pay more attention to Bill Donohue’s press releases.)

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**Author:** ![Phantom\_Dennis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/51bf81/32.png) [@Phantom\_Dennis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phantom_Dennis)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/39 "2006-04-07T21:56:23Z")

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> [@Logan 5](#):
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> I enjoyed the show much, much more than last week’s, but it did go on for a minute or two too long. I think they took shots at several targets including themselves. They got Family Guy’s brand of humor pretty dead on and yet I thought they went pretty easy on them. I enjoy both shows but I was really expecting them to tear FG a new one. I don’t think they hate Family Guy at all. At least it didn’t seem that way.

Yeah, I didn’t feel the hate either. When South Park singles out a target, it rarely pulls punches. Maybe next week they’ll bring out the big guns. Or not.

Unless they’ve stated otherwise, I wouldn’t be surprised if Matt and Trey enjoy Family Guy, or at least grudgingly respect the creators. The two shows have overlapping styles of humor (and viewership, one would assume), and Family Guy would probably be a lot more like South Park if it didn’t have to conform to the restrictions of network TV.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-4-5-06/351517/40 "2006-04-07T22:02:49Z")

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> [@Phantom Dennis](#):
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> Unless they’ve stated otherwise, I wouldn’t be surprised if Matt and Trey enjoy Family Guy, or at least grudgingly respect the creators.

[Over here,](http://www.exclaim.ca/index.asp?layid=22&csid=6&csid1=3880) they say…  
**What’s the meanest thing ever said to you before, during or after a gig?**  
Stone: When people say to me, “God, you guys have one of the best shows on television. You and Family Guy.” That fucking hurts so bad.  
Parker: Very well said. It’s such a kick in the balls.

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