# South Park Critter Christmas.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 16, 2004, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086 "2004-12-16T03:51:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/41 "2004-12-16T22:02:32Z")

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“It’s OK. I died _inside_ when you killed my mom.”

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/42 "2004-12-16T22:19:52Z")

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I did actually feel real emotion when the cubs told their mom to “wake up.”

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/43 "2004-12-16T22:44:21Z")

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> [@watsonwil](#):
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> - I loved the animal names. Porcupiney Porcupine.

Not to mention Beary bear, Squirrely squirrel, Deary dear, and Chickadee-ey chickadee.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/44 "2004-12-16T22:45:34Z")

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> [@tracer](#):
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> Not to mention Beary bear, Squirrely squirrel, Deary dear, and Chickadee-ey chickadee.

D’OH! :smack: I hate homophones.

Preview, preview, preview!

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**Author:** ![easy\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/eb8c5e/32.png) [@easy\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/easy_e)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/45 "2004-12-17T02:49:14Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> I thought I would pass out from laughing so hard. Man, who knew Santa was such a badass with a sawed-off?

Don’t you remember 2 Christmases ago when Santa went medieval on a bunch of Iraqis because they killed Jesus and shocked Santa’s balls?

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**Author:** ![WeRSauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@WeRSauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WeRSauron)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/46 "2004-12-17T03:40:26Z")

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Think this will be rerun or repeated? Otherwise, where can one, who has not seen it, see it?

Sounds like this should be quite entertaining. 🙂

WRS/Thû

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/47 "2004-12-17T04:23:28Z")

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Maybe it was end of the semester sleep deprivation, That Time of the Month, and the fact that I’ve grown to hate Xmas, but this show actually did inspire some real emotion in me. When Stan killed the mountain lion, I felt really bad, and the baby cubs! It was like _Bambi_ all over again. I watched in rapt fascination/horror at Santa blowing all those cute, evil animals away, in horrified hilarity at the entire abortion subplot, and was totally relieved that the story was just a Cartman fabrication and that Mama Mountain Lion lived. I know, how pathetic of me, but I was like 😃 :eek: ☹ :mad: :dubious: :eek: :smack: :o :eek: 😃 though the whole thing. My face sure got a workout. I laughed, I cried, it became a part of me. As my students say, it was totally off the hook. I second the poster who said Best. Xmas. Special. Ever.

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**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/48 "2004-12-17T04:23:46Z")

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> [@WeRSauron](#):
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> Think this will be rerun or repeated? Otherwise, where can one, who has not seen it, see it?
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> Sounds like this should be quite entertaining. 🙂
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> WRS/Thû

I leave it to you to find but Parker and Stone have been vocal in interviews about not caring if people download Southpark off the net. You can find it most easily as websites hosting episodes of Southpark aren’t shut down or hit with lawsuits.

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**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/49 "2004-12-17T04:56:45Z")

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> [@WeRSauron](#):
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> Think this will be rerun or repeated?

According to the Comedy Central website, it will be repeated on 12/17 at midnight, 12/18 at 3:00am, and 12/19 at 11:00pm.

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**Author:** ![WeRSauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@WeRSauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WeRSauron)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/50 "2004-12-17T05:24:40Z")

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Thanks, y’all! From what I’ve read so far, I’m gonna have me a good time. 🙂

WRS/Thû

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/51 "2004-12-17T07:31:19Z")

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My favorite episode since “Scott Tenorman Must Die.”

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/52 "2004-12-17T16:34:54Z")

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> [@Rubystreak](#):
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> Maybe it was end of the semester sleep deprivation, That Time of the Month, and the fact that I’ve grown to hate Xmas, but this show actually did inspire some real emotion in me. When Stan killed the mountain lion, I felt really bad, and the baby cubs!

I’m glad I’m not the only one! I don’t make it a habit to cry during _South Park_, but man…when Stan killed the mama mountain lion and those little cubs’ eyes appeared at the cave entrance…I lost it. I’m not good with anything involving cats getting hurt, even when they’re fake computer-generated cats. ☹

I loved the ep (didn’t bat an eye when Santa blew away the Satan Critters–in fact I was rooting for him!) but I wasn’t able to fully admit it until Mama Mountain Lion was back safe and sound.

I did suspect she would be, though, when I saw her all laid out on the rock with the flowers. I was getting serious Aslan vibes.

Excellent episode! I will be taping it this weekend. 🙂

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**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2004, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/53 "2004-12-18T08:33:28Z")

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> [@watsonwil](#):
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> Freaking hilarious. I really liked Stan’s annoyance with the narrator. Even in his own story, Cartman annoys people!
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> A few random thoughts:
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> - “Hey, Let’s sacrifice Rabbity and eat his flesh” “YES! Sacrifice me to the dark lord!”
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> - The Blood Orgy. Almost as funny as a puppet pile driver!
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> - And they all lived happily ever after…except Kyle who died of AIDS two weeks later! HAH! I almost rolled off the bed when Kyle yelled “Cartman” in the fantasy. I started laughing right away and had to rewind it to hear the next bit of dialgoue.
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> - Santa’s Shotgun cracked me up. From the moment I saw all those cute and furry creatures, I KNEW they would die a violence, SHOTGUN-RELATED death. I just didn’t know it would be SANTA! And there is just something funny about cocking a shotgun with one hand.
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> - Anal Abortion. The look on Kyle’s face was hilarious.
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> - I loved the animal names. Porcupiney Porcupine.

I kept thinking Aslan.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2004, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/54 "2004-12-18T17:11:58Z")

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I liked it, but for me, no South Park Xmas episode is going to top “Red Sleigh Down.”

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**Author:** ![WeRSauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@WeRSauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WeRSauron)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/55 "2004-12-21T09:09:43Z")

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Just one minor nitpick. The Immaculate Conception, in Catholic theology, refers not to Jesus’ conception but to the conception of Mary, the mother of Jesus.

In Catholic theology, everyone is born with original sin. The two exceptions are Mary and Jesus. Mary’s conception was immaculate in that she was not conveived in original sin: Mary was born sinless, and so could become the mother of God…

The virgin birth: Jesus.  
The immaculate conception: Mary.

WRS/Thû

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/56 "2004-12-21T14:13:51Z")

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And the award for “Post Most Likely to Start a Holy/Flame War” goes to…gee, I’m so nervous, **WeRSauron**!

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/57 "2004-12-21T14:34:27Z")

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You know **WeRSauron** , in all my years of Catholic school, I’ve never heard that version of the Immaculate Conception.

But back to the episode.

Appalling, yet compelling.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/58 "2004-12-21T14:48:15Z")

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WeRSauron is correct, there really is no controversy.

Yes, Jesus is Virgin-Born & Immaculately Conceived (w/o Original Sin)- no argument there. Catholics, Orthodox & Protties all agree.

The Catholic doctrine of the IC however, as decreed by the Pope in the latter 1800s, is that Mary, by the Grace of God through Christ, was conceived naturally but without inheriting Original Sin, hence immaculately.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/59 "2004-12-21T14:57:19Z")

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The definition of the Immaculate Conception is one that LOTS of people get wrong, most think it was conception of Christ (as I did too at one point).

This was one of the few things I knew that Ben Stein didn’t on “Win Ben Stein’s Money”. And he couldn’t believe he was wrong! (Not that I was a contestant, I’m just talking about watching it on the tube)

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-critter-christmas/280086/60 "2004-12-21T18:33:28Z")

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[If you would like to know more about the Immaculate Conception or Catholicism in general](http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07674d.htm) you can read here.  
Now please, back to the blood orgy.

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