# South Park Death Threats

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 22, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983 "2010-04-22T14:40:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/41 "2010-04-22T19:16:37Z")

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Mohammed Pedobear t-shirts, anyone?

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**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/42 "2010-04-22T19:25:15Z")

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[quote=]  
“This is not a threat, but a warning of the reality of what will likely happen to them,” it added.  
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Is this like when I punch my sister while yelling “I’m not punching you! I’m not punching you!”?

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/43 "2010-04-22T19:33:29Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> I’m another one who thinks that religions should be mocked at every opportunity.
> 
> They’re entitled to believe what they want, but we should also be allowed to find it hilarious that some people are so gullible or insecure about their place in the world.

Perhaps you’ll enjoy Jesus & Mo? [The latest cartoon](http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/04/22/bear/) happens to be relevant here.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/44 "2010-04-22T20:19:13Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> The Prophet revealed:

Hmm, the Prophet is not what he seems.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/45 "2010-04-22T20:20:07Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> I’ve been trying to watch the episode on their website, and right now there is just a message that says:

Yeah, now go back and try to watch the previous episode. Or any of the three before _that_. You can’t. “Contractual obligations.”

Why would they have a _different_ message, spotlighting the supposed censorship, for an episode that wouldn’t be shown online for a few weeks anyway?

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/46 "2010-04-22T20:38:06Z")

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Dang it, maybe I’m wrong.

The [old “Super Best Friends”](http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/103940), which actually _did_ depict Muhammed, isn’t streaming either.

I still think the “censorship” _within_ the most recent episode had to intended all along. It’s just way less funny without it (try watching it on the pirate site and imagining it with the name and the image in their place, instead of all the bleeps and “censored” blackouts).

On the hand, blocking the streaming, now… I don’t know what to believe.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/47 "2010-04-22T20:49:15Z")

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The policy with streaming South Park episodes on the website is, during the season, the newest episode is available for one week, until the next week’s episode is aired. It is then unavailable for about four weeks. After that, it once more becomes available to stream permanently. Whether “200” is put back on to stream remains to be seen as it would have been unavailable until May 15, anyway, under normal circumstances. Apparently, “Super Best Friends” and “201” are being withheld due to Comedy Central’s concern over the death threat issued against Matt and trey.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/48 "2010-04-22T20:58:58Z")

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[Confirmation](http://www.southparkstudios.com/news/3878) that the censoring in “201” was unintentional on Matt and Trey’s part and was not meant to be a joke. It was a reactionary move by Comedy Central after the finished episode was delivered to them.

> [@](#):
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> A Statement from Matt and Trey
> 
> In the 14 years we’ve been doing South Park we have never done a show that we couldn’t stand behind. We delivered our version of the show to Comedy Central and they made a determination to alter the episode. It wasn’t some meta-joke on our part. Comedy Central added the bleeps. In fact, Kyle’s customary final speech was about intimidation and fear. It didn’t mention Muhammad at all but it got bleeped too. We’ll be back next week with a whole new show about something completely different and we’ll see what happens to it.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/49 "2010-04-22T21:07:43Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> The policy with streaming South Park episodes…

Oh, okay. I’ve only streamed episodes there a couple times, never ones this new.

> [@cochrane](#):
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> [Confirmation](http://www.southparkstudios.com/news/3878) that the censoring in “201” was unintentional on Matt and Trey’s part and was not meant to be a joke.

Now this is weird. They’re saying that _all_ the bleeps were added?!

Honestly, I _really_ don’t know what to believe now. Their use of the word “meta” implies that the statement is serious, on the level, but… hell, it’s so much _better_ with the censorship!

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**Author:** ![AWB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AWB)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/50 "2010-04-22T22:17:01Z")

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> [@Tahssa](#):
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> What I find funny is that South Park did a whole episode staring the Super Best Friends back in season 5 and they showed Muhammad quite a bit in that episode and no one gave a shit back then or at least no news coverage gave a shit if some loon was frothing at the mouth.
> 
> You can watch the episode for free on the South Park Studios website and see for your self how they depicted Muhammad. They were respectful with their depiction.

From South Park Studio’s website, when I attempted to see “201”:

> [@](#):
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> WE APOLOGIZE THAT SOUTH PARK STUDIOS CANON STREAM EPISODE 201 AT THIS TIME.
> 
> AFTER WE DELIVERED THE SHOW, AND PRIOR TO BROADCAST, COMEDY CENTRAL PLACED NUMEROUS ADDITIONAL AUDIO BLEEPS THROUGHOUT THE EPISODE. WE DO NOT HAVE NETWORK APPROVAL TO STREAM OUR ORIGINAL VERSION OF THE SHOW.
> 
> WE WILL BRING YOU A VERSION OF 201 AS SOON AS WE CAN.

☹ Damn lawyers…

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/51 "2010-04-22T23:08:53Z")

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> [@Walker\_in\_Eternity](#):
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> For the record I am in favour of freedom of speech and think that anything not qualifying as hate speech should be able to be broadcast. If people don’t like it they don’t have to watch it.

Freedom of Speech doesn’t mean what you apparently think it does. Hate speech is protected under the First Amendment. The ACLU has represented Nazis wanting to march through [Skokie, Illinois](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie).

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/52 "2010-04-22T23:13:15Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Freedom of Speech doesn’t mean what you apparently think it does. Hate speech is protected under the First Amendment. The ACLU has represented Nazis wanting to march through [Skokie, Illinois](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie).

Note that Walker didn’t capitalize “freedom of speech,” suggesting it was his/her own take on what they deem an acceptable standard.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/53 "2010-04-23T01:39:55Z")

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Looks like iTunes Store has also caved, this afternoon, The Super Best Friends and 200 were available in their respective seasons, 201 was not available yet, I purchased TSBF, and was planning on picking up 200 and 201 when I got home tonight, I get home to find that not only has the iTunes store removed 200, but they’ve _ALSO_ removed TSBF from Season 5!

Frakking stupid extremists, get a life, and get with the modern times, Comedy Central, stop caving to these nutjobs, and iTunes Store, put the episodes back up!

Oh, and muslim extremists? [Bite Me!](http://s907.photobucket.com/albums/ac274/MacTechG4/?action=view&current=P646462.png) 😉

\<watching TSBF right now\>

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/54 "2010-04-23T03:13:42Z")

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Maybe they should do another episode of Super Best Friends and kick Moe to the curb. Do it like Survivor and vote him off the island. If your followers can’t play nice then you need to go.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/55 "2010-04-23T03:19:08Z")

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Jon Stewart just spent the first few minutes of the Daily Show talking about this. They played a collection of slams on religion from over the years, and then gave the Revolution Muslim folks a nice gospel chorus reprise of “Go Fuck Yourselves.”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/56 "2010-04-23T04:06:39Z")

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On NPR they said Stone and Parker changed the second ep at the last minute because of the death threats, adding the bleeped dialogue, and bleeped mentions of Mohammed, and Mohammed hidden behind a “CENSORED” bar – but is that true? The second ep seemed to be **written** around those gimmicks!

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**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/57 "2010-04-23T04:34:34Z")

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We’re not violent and we’ll kill anyone who says we are.  
heh

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/58 "2010-04-23T04:38:26Z")

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> [@BigBertha](#):
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> We’re not violent and we’ll kill anyone who says we are.  
> heh

Close. We’re the religion of peace and we’ll kill anyone who disagrees.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/59 "2010-04-23T04:43:29Z")

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I remember reading about this issue this afternoon actually. The key points of the article seems to be this part:

> [@](#):
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> A posting on the website of the US-based group, Revolution Muslim, told Matt Stone and Trey Parker they would “probably wind up like Theo Van Gogh”.  
> The Dutch film-maker was shot and stabbed to death in 2004 by an Islamist angered by his film about Muslim women.
> 
> A subsequent episode of the cartoon bleeped out references to Muhammad.  
> \*\*  
> The posting gave details about a home Stone and Parker reportedly co-own.  
> It also listed the addresses of their production office in California and the New York office of South Park’s broadcaster, Comedy Central. \*\*

It’s one thing for a person to give a “warning” (or a vague threat by reference another person’s death- tomato, to-mah-to.) about how these two guys shouldn’t offend the radical Muslims in a post…  
But it is also another thing to in the VERY SAME POST also give the location of where the people who may be pissing off the radical Muslims live and the location of where the station who allowed such a show to air’s location. Not that he’s advocating violence or anything.

But he’s certainly helping to make it easier for the Radicals out there who don’t watch South park but certainly would read that post. I can sadly understand why a company would want to back down and censor itself after things like that are done.

It’s one thing to demand free speech and decry these threats and claim the pen is mightier than the sword and all that jazz.  
But it’s another thing to still say those words, when your ass is now in the spotlight and they know where you live… and they still have swords, and you’ve got a pen. ☹ So I think in this one, the point goes to the radical terrorists sadly, and tis a shame that they backed down, but I totally understand why a company wouldn’t want to take chances like this…

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/60 "2010-04-23T04:46:45Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> The second ep seemed to be **written** around those gimmicks!

That’s what I thought… it seems so much smarter and funnier with those! Imagine if Muhammad had simply appeared in all those scenes–standing absolutely mute, doing nothing, while all the fuss was made over him–!!

😕😕😕

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