# South Park Death Threats

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 22, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983 "2010-04-22T14:40:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/81 "2010-04-24T14:43:11Z")

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> [@thirdname](#):
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> Apparently the blogger who posted the threats is a 20 year-old who lives in Virginia in his mom’s house with his brother, wife and son. He was a malcontent in high school, then he converted, married a Muslim woman and had a son. (Way to overdo it on the conversion, dude!)
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> [Road to Radicalism: The Man Behind the 'South Park' Threats | Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/04/23/road-radicalism-man-south-park-threats/?test=latestnews)

Thats what happens when you stick the dick in the righteous.

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**Author:** ![MJinks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@MJinks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MJinks)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/82 "2010-04-24T16:42:06Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> Moe can counter that it’s not his fault. He has always insisted his followers adhere to the principles of peace under the severest of penalties but somehow they’ve blown that all out of proportion. All the while his character is invisible which leads to the other super friends complaining about how annoying THAT is. Talking to him is like talking to a wall.
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> Seems like lots of opportunities to turn this into a teaching moment.

But any comment Moe makes will be censored so the others can just reply “What was that? Sorry, I couldn’t hear you.” and kick him out anyway.

Are Matt and Trey just going to move on or are they going to address the censorship issue in the next episode?

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/83 "2010-04-24T18:31:03Z")

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Posted on: 04.22.10

A Statement from Matt and Trey  
In the 14 years we’ve been doing South Park we have never done a show that we couldn’t stand behind. We delivered our version of the show to Comedy Central and they made a determination to alter the episode. It wasn’t some meta-joke on our part. Comedy Central added the bleeps. In fact, Kyle’s customary final speech was about intimidation and fear. It didn’t mention Muhammad at all but it got bleeped too. We’ll be back next week with a whole new show about something completely different and we’ll see what happens to it.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/84 "2010-04-24T23:24:51Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> Looks like iTunes Store has also caved,

From what I hear, so has Netflix. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/85 "2010-04-24T23:26:46Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> From what I hear, so has Netflix. :rolleyes:

Those bastards! They killed Kenny’s South Park!

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/86 "2010-04-25T01:28:38Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I still don’t get it. 200, at least, had to have been specifically written with the censorship in mind. When Mohammed is covered with the censor bar, they even mention it. They make a big deal out of how the guy cannot appear “in South Park.” It’s meta, and only works as meta.
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> Surely only the bleeping was done by them. I wish I’d seen it. I always watch it online, now.
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> Well, at least it’s kept people from spoiling me on who Cartman’s father is (assuming that wasn’t bleeped, too. That would have been hilarious.)

No, it was made quite clear who Cartman’s father is. I hope Comedy Central comes around and re-airs it or puts it on the website, censored or no. It didn’t hurt the big reveal in the slightest.

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**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/87 "2010-04-25T02:06:25Z")

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I think I’m being stupid, but in part 1, they said Mohammed over and over, didn’t they? Or did I forget some bleeping? Is that what they were bleeping out over and over in part 2? I have to say it left me scratching my head. And what could Kyle possibly have been saying that required the entire thing to be bleeped? It makes zero sense.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/88 "2010-04-25T04:42:36Z")

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> [@BoBettie](#):
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> I think I’m being stupid, but in part 1, they said Mohammed over and over, didn’t they? Or did I forget some bleeping? Is that what they were bleeping out over and over in part 2? I have to say it left me scratching my head. And what could Kyle possibly have been saying that required the entire thing to be bleeped? It makes zero sense.

I finally got my hands on the censored version. They were definitely always bleeping the word Mohamed (and a few curse words.)

And I have to admit that the bleeping of the moral at the end was hilarious as shown. Surely Matt and Trey at least had something to do with this. “Well, of you’re going to bleep the guy’s name, you might as well bleep the entire message.” The following quote is too frickin’ hilarious:Kyle: That’s because there is no Goo, Mr. Cruise. You see, I learned something today [beeeeeeeep]  
Jesus: That’s right. Don’t you see, Gingers, [beeeeeeeep]  
Santa: That’s right, friends[beeeeeeeep]  
Stan: [Turns his head, and does his stereotypical] Yeah.  
Almost as funny as the ending. For once I didn’t predict either Cartman’s joke, nor the one on Cruise in the credits.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/89 "2010-04-25T05:17:03Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> For once I didn’t predict either Cartman’s joke, nor the one on Cruise in the credits.

Wait, what? (Joke in the credits.)

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/90 "2010-04-25T17:41:03Z")

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> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#):
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> Wait, what? (Joke in the credits.)

[spoiler]With that buildup at the end, with the kids promising Cruise to send him to a place that he would be happy forever, I expected that they were going to take Cruise to Imagination land, instead he was sent to the moon…

To lie dead next to the also dead killer whale (Willzyx) that they sent to the moon in an early episode, thinking that they were freeing it.

[http://www.idealog.us/2008/12/why-am-i-laughing.html](http://www.idealog.us/2008/12/why-am-i-laughing.html)

Same soundless ending with the only difference being the body of Cruise next to the whale[/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/91 "2010-04-26T00:13:34Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I finally got my hands on the censored version. They were definitely always bleeping the word Mohamed (and a few curse words.)

Just saw it myself, and I have to disagree. I think Matt & Trey handed in a version without any audio bleeps except for swearing. I think Comedy Central bleeped Mohammed’s name and the moral at the end.

Trey & Matt obviously put in their own visual CENSORED bar over Mohammed. But for audio bleeps, there is no reason for them to bleep out his name, since they didn’t in part 1. And there were no jokes about or depending on the name being bleeped. For example, we know the visual CENSORED bars were intentional because that helped construct the joke at the end when Tom Cruise got the goo and then got his own CENSORED bar.

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**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/92 "2010-04-26T00:15:31Z")

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Jesus Christ…they removed the opening credits from season 6 (which contains stock footage of the super best friends, including Muhammad) from [southparkstudios.com](http://southparkstudios.com) … they’re really going hardcore with this retroactive censoring!!!

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/93 "2010-04-26T00:31:18Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Just saw it myself, and I have to disagree. I think Matt & Trey handed in a version without any audio bleeps except for swearing. I think Comedy Central bleeped Mohammed’s name and the moral at the end.
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> Trey & Matt obviously put in their own visual CENSORED bar over Mohammed. But for audio bleeps, there is no reason for them to bleep out his name, since they didn’t in part 1. And there were no jokes about or depending on the name being bleeped. For example, we know the visual CENSORED bars were intentional because that helped construct the joke at the end when Tom Cruise got the goo and then got his own CENSORED bar.

I wonder if the [CENSORED] bar over Cruise was deliberately cropped for his closeup, as in the closeup the letters SORE fill the screen, flanked by portions of the N and D preceding and following it

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**Author:** ![ekweizn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7c8e57/32.png) [@ekweizn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekweizn)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/94 "2010-04-26T06:44:58Z")

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Nice shoutout to South Park in this week’s Simpsons episode.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/95 "2010-04-26T08:05:11Z")

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What was it?

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/96 "2010-04-26T10:05:14Z")

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Bart’s chalkboard gag in the opening sequence - “South Park - We’d stand by you if we weren’t so scared.”

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**Author:** ![Martiju](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@Martiju](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martiju)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/97 "2010-04-28T11:41:35Z")

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> [@Walker\_in\_Eternity](#):
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> I wasn’t refering to the cartoon, I was refering to the steady erosion of our freedom of speech by this government. That’s a fact, look it up.

At the risk of hijacking - look it up where exactly? I’m afraid I don’t tend to read the Daily Mail archives.

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**Author:** ![Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nunzio_Tavulari)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/98 "2010-04-28T13:01:29Z")

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The group that issued these warnings consists of only 10 to 12 people. Its leader was a college student with no political leanings two or three years ago. I have seen statements from many other Muslim organizations that say they do not agree with them. I have not seen any groups that support Revolution Muslim.

Several Muslims have said that Revolution Muslim has gone so far over the top on numerous occasions that it seems they are deliberately trying to provoke hatred of the Islam religion and its followers.

I have to agree. I think that this group is a shadow group that is deliberately trying to inflame people for reasons unrelated to religious beliefs. I would not be surprised to find that there was a covert connection to an extremist “American Patriot” group. Dick Cheney is probably jealous that he didn’t think of it first.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/99 "2010-04-28T14:00:16Z")

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Or it is a false flag operation, as Wikipedia says; “The group of 5-10 members devoted to Abdullah el-Faisal was run by Yousef al-Khattab, **born Joseph Cohen, an American Jew** who converted to Islam in 2000 after living in Israel and attending an orthodox rabbinical school there, then returned to New York.”

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-death-threats/536983/100 "2010-04-28T19:58:10Z")

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> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#):
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> [Pssst.](http://www.xepisodes.com/index.php)
> 
> [Mods: delete if inappropriate.]

Belated thanks, man. 🙂

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