# Sovereign Citizens-- Please tell me this is fake **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 24, 2016, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572 "2016-10-24T07:38:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/321 "2023-09-18T20:22:12Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > But then they wake up. some of them . but not all of them ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/322 "2023-09-18T20:36:44Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Does the actual Queen of Canada not care about pretenders? I believe the last Queen Regnant is no longer in a position to care about anything. But, otherwise, I doubt the monarchy is going to publicly raise the profile of this case. A serious pretender may be one thing but going after a clear nutjob does them absolutely no good. Better to let the Canadian authorities do their own thing. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/323 "2023-09-18T20:53:56Z")
These guys always remind me of Otto. "OTTO. Apes don’t read philosophy. WANDA. Yes they do, Otto. They just don’t understand it.” ---
**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/324 "2023-09-18T21:44:44Z")
“ASSHOLE!!!” One of the funniest, cringiest movies ever. Otto could definitely be a Sov Cit. Kline at his best! ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/325 "2023-09-18T23:12:14Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Does the actual Queen of Canada not care about pretenders? Well, [not any more](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_II#Death). ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/326 "2023-09-18T23:28:09Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > > [@Pleonast](#): > > > > Does the actual Queen of Canada not care about pretenders? > > Well, [not any more](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_II#Death).   Current one might. > **[Kings and queens of Canada - Canada.ca](https://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/services/royal-family/kings-queens.html#g8)** > > Discover the kings and queens of Canada from the time the Crown was first established by the kings of France and England in the 15th and 16th centuries to the present. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/327 "2023-09-19T00:47:16Z")
“Canada’s current Queen-Consort Camilla!” (Read that in the voice of Robin from the '60s _Batman_ series.) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/328 "2023-09-19T01:02:08Z")
Don’t forget to slap one gloved fist into the opposite gloved palm at the right spot in the cadence. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/329 "2023-09-19T01:58:48Z")
> [@Holy\_Basil](#): > > Has anyone yet heard of these sovcits? It’s a mishmash of sovcit, cult and grift. They call themselves the “Kingdom of Canada” and the leader is a bizarre figure named Romana Didulo. The cult members call themselves “ **The** We the People” and believe that any laws that their (fake) “queen” decrees are invalid do not apply to them. [Canada’s QAnon ‘Queen’ forced out of Kamsack, Sask. | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/kamsack-saskatchewan-qanon-didulo-1.6967631) Yes, she’s pretty well known around Canada. She’s a very strange one… IMO, a genuinely mentally ill person. The amazing thing is that she’s managed to get followers (who often get in severe trouble for following the advice of a mentally ill person). Here’s something to be proud of though… > Within a six-hour period Wednesday, a couple hundred townspeople peacefully protested their presence and the RCMP eventually escorted the group out of town, they say. > > “The pride we have in our town today is so immense,” said Kamsack Mayor Nancy Brunt. “We’re so grateful for what everyone did yesterday, coming together all on the same side, all saying, ‘This is our town and no one is going to take it away from us.’” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/330 "2023-09-19T02:45:28Z")
> [@Holy\_Basil](#): > > Has anyone yet heard of these sovcits? It’s a mishmash of sovcit, cult and grift. They call themselves the “Kingdom of Canada” and the leader is a bizarre figure named Romana Didulo. Fun fact: “Romana Didulo” anagrams to _O Man R U A Dildo_ ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/331 "2023-09-19T02:46:26Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > “Canada’s current Queen-Consort Camilla!” > > (Read that in the voice of Robin from the '60s _Batman_ series.) Holy Governor General, Batman! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/332 "2023-09-19T02:53:29Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Don’t forget to slap one gloved fist into the opposite gloved palm at the right spot in the cadence. Probably all the students at Gotham High knew that Dick Grayson was Robin, just from the way he answered questions when the teachers called on him. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/333 "2023-09-19T03:28:33Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Yes, she’s pretty well known around Canada. She’s a very strange one… IMO, a genuinely mentally ill person. The amazing thing is that she’s managed to get followers (who often get in severe trouble for following the advice of a mentally ill person). I find cult leaders like this fascinating. The more so because she has no particular advantages. She is not physically attractive or rich or famous. She has none of the classic assets that tend to give someone credibility or attention (warranted or unwarranted). What does she do to be so charismatic that she manages to get a bunch of idiots to believe anything she says no matter how ridiculous? It’s amazing. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/334 "2023-09-19T04:21:18Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > It’s amazing. It really is. The lady is nuttier than a jar of Skippy. People are weird. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/335 "2023-09-19T04:39:22Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > [@Holy\_Basil](#): > > > > Has anyone yet heard of these sovcits? It’s a mishmash of sovcit, cult and grift. They call themselves the “Kingdom of Canada” and the leader is a bizarre figure named Romana Didulo. The cult members call themselves “ **The** We the People” and believe that any laws that their (fake) “queen” decrees are invalid do not apply to them. [Canada’s QAnon ‘Queen’ forced out of Kamsack, Sask. | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/kamsack-saskatchewan-qanon-didulo-1.6967631) > > Yes, she’s pretty well known around Canada. It looks like [the former mayor of Peterborough, Dianne Therrien, has her pegged:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romana_Didulo): > Peterborough mayor [Diane Therrien](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Therrien) became embroiled in a minor controversy after stating “fuck off, you fuckwads.” on social media, in reaction to the group’s actions. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/336 "2023-09-19T04:44:54Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > jar of Skippy As a complete aside, when you are Australian and when you grew up with a well loved children’s TV show called “Skippy the Bush Kangaroo”, and when “skippy” is an affectionate name for kangaroos more generally, references to a “jar of Skippy” are emotionally impactful. I may need therapy. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/337 "2023-09-19T04:48:18Z")
Right! You don’t can 'roos, you make jerky out of them! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/338 "2023-09-19T04:49:38Z")
Don’t google “Kangaroo in a can” ---
**Author:** ![Holy\_Basil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c0e974/32.png) [@Holy\_Basil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Holy_Basil)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/339 "2023-09-19T05:28:06Z")
Especially with this smirk. How can anyone think this is the face of a queen??[Roman Dildo](https://imgur.com/bomLVD1) ---
**Author:** ![Holy\_Basil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c0e974/32.png) [@Holy\_Basil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Holy_Basil)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/340 "2023-09-19T05:30:11Z")
Especially with this smirk. How can anyone think this is the face of a queen?? [Smirking Romana Didulo, the fake “queen” of Canada](https://imgur.com/bomLVD1) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572.md?page=18)