# Sovereign Citizens-- Please tell me this is fake **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 24, 2016, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572 "2016-10-24T07:38:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/381 "2023-09-25T00:53:22Z")
The Queen of Canada finds a new home. Not all her subjects are pleased. > **['Extremely alarming': Frustrations mount in Sask. village as residents...](https://saskatoon.ctvnews.ca/extremely-alarming-frustrations-mount-in-sask-village-as-residents-protest-qanon-queen-1.6575634)** > > Residents of a small village in southwestern Saskatchewan took to their trucks on Sunday to protest their town’s newest resident — a woman who claims to have legal standing as ‘queen’ of Canada. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/382 "2023-09-25T01:08:48Z")
@Gorsnak must be alerted to this invasion. Although since he’s not been online here this afternoon, perhaps he’s out there manning the ramparts right now. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/383 "2023-09-25T01:35:50Z")
Yeah, and AFAIK she’s never been naturalized Canadian so she has even less coherence than your run-of-the-mill sovcit loon. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/384 "2023-09-25T01:45:24Z")
Half day’s drive away. @Spoons is closer, let him deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/385 "2023-09-25T01:51:01Z")
Didn’t you used to live in Saskatoon? I was recalling a convo we had about that a long time ago. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/386 "2023-09-25T01:54:51Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Half day’s drive away. @Spoons is closer, let him deal with it. Hm. Looking at a map, it’s most likely four hours away from me. Still, a long day if I do the return. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/387 "2023-09-25T02:10:34Z")
Saskatoon is correct. This Richmound is in the very southwest corner of Saskatchewan, and closer to Lethbridge, AB than it is to Saskatoon. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/388 "2023-09-25T02:39:33Z")
A little bit south of Saskatoon? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/389 "2023-09-25T02:54:52Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > This Richmound OK, looked at the map, closest thing to it whose name I am familiar with is Medicine Hat. So quite out there. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/390 "2023-09-25T12:32:04Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > So quite out there. So is the Queen. It all fits. 🙂 > [@Gorsnak](#): > > Saskatoon is correct. This Richmound is in the very southwest corner of Saskatchewan, and closer to Lethbridge, AB than it is to Saskatoon. Ah, thank you. I’d not mapped it and had assumed the town was one of the satellites not too far from Saskatoon. Oops. One thing that part of the world has is lots and lots of open space and distance. Plus a wacko or two. Oh well, can’t have everything be good. ---
**Author:** ![Nightaudit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nightaudit/32/17181_2.png) [@Nightaudit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightaudit)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/391 "2023-09-27T22:15:57Z")
I’ve always wondered what would happen if the presiding judge turned the Sovereign Citizen over to Immigration after they claimed that they were not a US citizen… has any judge ever said “ok you’re not a citizen of this country, let’s just get you sorted out with immigration… bailiffs will please notify ICE that we have an illegal alien for them” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/392 "2023-09-27T23:26:29Z")
Tempting - see post 128. But in practical terms, in the real world, it just isn’t done. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/393 "2023-09-28T01:18:28Z")
It would be neat if the government _could_ revoke birthright citizenship for these wackos. If they say and demonstrate they don’t want it: Riiiip!!!. But the way our country is in danger of going, I know that would not be used on SovCits, but rather on ordinary people who voted for the “wrong”, which is to say un-RIGHT, party just before the takever. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/394 "2023-09-28T08:35:33Z")
Well, before Ronnie the savior came along, they did at least used to hospitalize a lot of the crazy instead of let them run around all over the place. I’d settle for that. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/395 "2023-09-28T16:23:17Z")
What’s fascinating about Ramona Didulo isn’t that she’s a nut who says she’s Queen of Canada. Nuts have been saying crazy stuff forever. What’s fascinating is that she has followers. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/396 "2023-09-28T16:38:11Z")
Nuts attract nuts. Leader-nuts attract follower-nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/397 "2023-09-28T16:44:08Z")
And in the past, there was only one nut per town. You’d have to subscribe to their mimeographed newsletter to see all the nuttiness. Now, social media has given these individual nuts the power to coalesce into one large nutball of crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/398 "2023-09-28T16:48:15Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Nuts attract nuts. Leader-nuts attract follower-nuts. Plus, she really came into her own during the pandemic. Like 9/11 before it, I honestly think the stresses of the pandemic legitimately drove a lot of people nuts. The combination of some people finding the nuts politically valuable, and our society’s normally shitty response to mental issues exacerbated everything, and this is one result. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/399 "2023-09-28T17:44:57Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > in the past, there was only one nut per town. You’d have to subscribe to their mimeographed newsletter to see all the nuttiness. Yep. Heck even when there was more than one nut they’d stand at opposite corners of the park so you could only listen to one at a time. Or their relatives would tell them to stop embarassing them and go back to work. > [@](#): > > Now, social media has given these individual nuts the power to coalesce into one large nutball All the while each of them believing that the profusion of nuts means nuttery IS the right approach or else they would not be so many. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/400 "2023-09-28T19:15:42Z")
Reminds me of Emperor Norton I of San Francisco. But he was actually a decent fellow for the most part and his ‘followers’ were mostly humoring him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572.md?page=21)