# Sovereign Citizens-- Please tell me this is fake **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 24, 2016, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572 "2016-10-24T07:38:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 48
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/941 "2024-04-22T19:16:13Z")
Or maybe with VV, like in [this movie title](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Witch_(2015_film)#/media/File:The_Witch_poster.png)? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/942 "2024-04-22T23:01:35Z")
UU is literally a double “U”, that’s all I’m saying. ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/943 "2024-04-23T01:28:41Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > It’s no big deal, just replace every W with a UU. Spell it, Baby! Dan ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/944 "2024-04-23T02:28:39Z")
Kuuite. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/945 "2024-04-23T08:20:09Z")
Well, more of a VV than a UU. It just so happened that V was for U ages ago. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/946 "2024-04-23T18:33:27Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Well, more of a VV than a UU. UU is a double U. And W is pronounced as “double U”. …It’s a pun… (I don’t testify as to whether it’s funny or not though.) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/947 "2024-04-23T23:08:17Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > …It’s a pun… No, no…not a pun…What’s that thing that spells the same backwards as forwards? ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/948 "2024-04-23T23:36:37Z")
Notlob. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/949 "2024-04-23T23:36:38Z")
That’s a limerick. ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/950 "2024-04-23T23:52:07Z")
A Palindrome. “Have pun, will travel” Dan ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/951 "2024-04-24T00:16:20Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > What’s that thing that spells the same backwards as forwards? You’re talking about an Emordnilap, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/952 "2024-04-24T17:35:00Z")
Well, you can’t blame that on British Rail, can you, sir? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/953 "2024-04-24T18:45:59Z")
> [@Dandan](#): > > A Palindrome. I saw that movie! it featured a large arena where you fight your friends to the death, right? I think it starred Mel Gibson. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/954 "2024-04-24T18:50:10Z")
sevael nam eno–retne nem owt ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/955 "2024-04-24T18:52:00Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > > [@Dandan](#): > > > > A Palindrome. > > I saw that movie! it featured a large arena where you fight your friends to the death, right? I think it starred Mel Gibson. - No, you only fight a Python. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/956 "2024-04-25T00:25:05Z")
I think what he meant was that Dungeons & Dragons character class. You know the one. It’s sorta like a fighter and sorta like a cleric. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/957 "2024-04-25T12:20:28Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > No, you only fight a Python I always fight Python. I hate that that language. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/958 "2024-04-25T14:06:52Z")
The only thing about Python that bugs me is the fetishization of the tab, but I acknowledge that my perspective is poisoned by having come up in the ALGOL/C/Java/Perl school of language syntax, where blocks are delimited by brace characters or keywords. Annotating code blocks by indentation is objectively perfectly cromulent, but my biases make it hard to accept that rationally. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/959 "2024-04-25T15:55:36Z")
Oh yeah! That’s called a Palladium. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572/960 "2024-04-25T17:11:43Z")
Hold on to your seats folks - the full package! > **[Sovereign Citizen Turns Traffic Tickets Into A 12-Year Prison Sentence](https://jalopnik.com/sovereign-citizen-turns-traffic-tickets-into-a-12-year-1851435411)** > > Public officials aren't putting up with "paper terrorism" any longer. “A Colorado man who just sounds like a barrel of laughs ended up with a 12-year prison sentence this week after spending two years flooding judges and private people with the kind of “paper terrorism” made popular by the sovereign citizen movement.” And then the litany of his actions are described. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572.md?page=47) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sovereign-citizens-please-tell-me-this-is-fake/769572.md?page=49)