Sovereign Citizens-- Please tell me this is fake

Sorry for the double post, I can’t find any way to delete one. Mods?

How could anyone think this is the face of a queen?

That someone who smirks can become a cult leader (or queen) doesn’t surprise me. That someone who has no obvious advantages at all can get idiots to follow her down the rabbit hole amazes me.

Camilla and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day

You should’ve seen Marie Antoinette with no makeup on.

An old woman looks like an old woman. Stop the presses.

You understand my comment was sarcastic?

You mean The UK doesn’t sell that face on the head of a dildo?

Now we’ll never know if that nose, that chin, those wrinkles (cast in hard plastic) could ever possibly stimulate any G-spot to orgasm…

Well this took a nasty fucking turn.

“Well this took a nasty fucking turn”; title of your SovCit encounter video.

Sorry, I’ll see myself out.

I’d like to introduce you to a certain disgraced former high-level US politician. Perhaps you’ve not heard of him Down Under? :grin:

By the time he started taking acolytes down rabbit holes he was both rich and famous.

There is the moorish sovereign citizen movement which combines black nationalism with soverign citizenship, and could be probably classified as left wing.

I’m pretty sure this could be classified as “SovCit in action”. It’s not completely clear because he isn’t terribly coherent, but “sovereign” does crop up several times. Apparently he’s also a “master and commander” who owns the police and controls the military. I don’t think there’s much more to understanding the SovCit mentality than this.

Insanity is a condition worthy of pity. SovCitery is a condition worthy of contempt.

When you put them together in one confused package, it’s a real dilemma how to react. But the officers seem to have the right idea.

What mentality?

Somebody’s making it up, it’s coming from somewhere. Those repeating the mantras like some kind of magic “control the cops” spell are just mindlessly performing by rote, but there is a person or persons coming up with that shit to start.

Probably the same type who came up with Q and all of that malarkey.

Here’s Wikipedia’s take on the sovcit origins:

The movement, which appeared in the early 1970s, is American in origin and exists primarily in the United States, though it has counterparts in other countries: the similar freeman on the land movement emerged during the 2000s in Canada before spreading to other Commonwealth countries.[4]

Expanded details under the “History” section of the article, which points out the bigotry uderpinnning the movement’s origins:

The concept of a “sovereign citizen” whose rights are being unfairly denied originated in 1971 in the Posse Comitatus movement as a teaching of Christian Identity minister William Potter Gale. The early form of the sovereign citizen movement was thus strongly associated with white supremacist and antisemitic ideologies.[3][9]

The ideology has since metastasized to infect all sorts of others who perceive themselves as downtrodden by The Man.

The whole article is a sobering assessment of how corrosively spreading the movement has become, and how its potential for chaos and violence has expanded. These folks are very much not just harmless loons.

I love it when they call themselves US Nationals. Being a national is a step down from being a citizen but you are still an American and

The significant differences between a U.S. citizen and a U.S. national are voting rights and the eligibility to hold public office. U.S. nationals are not allowed to vote in federal elections or serve in a federal office.

So being a national still means you need to follow the law.

So they’re asserting that they have fewer rights than The Man is willing to acknowledge they do. Got it!