You know I try to be legal, not do illegal things because I prefer to be unapproached by police and questioned.
I have insurance, an up to date plate, a current drivers license in my name that has never been impounded.
In a sobriety checkpoint everyone goes through the line and cops, hopefully clear the drunk drivers off the road. Saving lives.
It’s irritating. It slows down your travel. But I like to think, in a small part, a life was saved by my 10 minutes in going through the line.
Sov-cits can suck eggs. They hurt everyone. They are not doing anything but tryna stick it to the man!
I’ve seen some of the videos. They are cleverly edited and curated to make the cops look bad. Why else would they film it and post it on YouTube. Must get those clicks and likes.
I don’t have much faith they are anything but entertainment.
There are reasons there are rules, laws and requirements, folks.
I don’t like paying taxes, but I do. I won’t pretend I’m thinking about the greater good, when I write the checks. That’s what it is for, though.
My wise Daddy said about getting stopped by police; be polite, be legal and if a citation is issued, take your medicine and go. If you are wrongly cited, go to court and tell it to the judge.
I think I’m unclear on your position here. Are you saying drivers shouldn’t have the right to refuse to answer questions, or are you just saying that people who choose to exercise that right are generally assholes?
While it would also contradict that claim, but the one I’m actually contradicting is this load of horseshit:
Also:
Oh, well, if we’re going off “lived experience,” then there’s absolutely no problem with US cops, who are uniformly polite and fair, and often merciful. At least in my “lived experience.” And if the “lived experience” of a mildly affluent White man isn’t determinative of the entire American police force, what kind of society are we even living in?
“Horseshit”? No, three-quarters of a century of lived experience is not “horseshit”. And it’s not just my own experience. My son, in his teenage years, was pretty rambunctious and had a few run-ins with the police. Always amicable, never arrested, never in handcuffs. A peaceful society. Lived experience. Police start to get aggressive in direct response to the aggressiveness of the public that they have to deal with. Like our friend @Saint_Cad and his fellow SovCits.
Sovereign citizens try to assert non-existent rights or rights they don’t have. Saint_Cad is talking about rights he actually does have. Do you see the difference?
I’m not sure how big you think Canada is. Canada has a smaller population than the U.S., but it’s still large enough that one man and his son don’t represent the full spectrum of police interactions across the entire country.
Fortunately, in the entire history of the United States, there has never been any sort of conflict between Native Americans and European settlers.
And even if there had been (there wasn’t) there’s certainly no police brutality in the US today!
This is all because @Saint_Cad and his SovCit buddies courageously refuse to answer any questions put to them by police during a traffic stop, thus upholding everyone’s constitutional freedoms.
The above is just a quick summary for those who haven’t been following the thread train as it derails and flies off the bridge into the chasm below.
Yeah, because the full title of the citation wasn’t the point. The point was wolfpup’s ability to make an argument that contained, not one, but two logical fallacies at the same time. A combination of tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy) and the fallacy of relative privation (appeal to worse problems).