Sovereign Citizens-- Please tell me this is fake

Heheeh, kind of like a scofflaw. I’m probably not going to follow it of my own volition. But if you catch me and are a cop or an editor, I’ll go along with it. :clown_face:

Or both.

How about we just assume you don’t know what those words mean, and you just don’t care.

How about we understand that the usage I use is common, and I don’t care how much you care about it?

Murder is common too. Not sure commonality is a good yardstick. And yes, obviously language is all made up and not inherently right or wrong like murder.

Hehehe, beat me to it on the edit. Language drift is pretty natural. Might as well be angry at the sun for setting.

Language drift is pretty natural and so is murder.

The sun and planets are not sentient so make no choices about their actions. Consideration of their “choices” is therefore an oxymoron.

You on the other hand are a sentient being who has made a decision to use a word in a way that your own cite says is a mistake. You (and others) didn’t know the difference between flaunt and flout and they sound kinda the same so you (and others) started using the wrong one in a phrase and now you are going to stick to it because “fuck you that’s why”.

The sun’s “choice” to set is not amusing. Your decision to be proudly wrong on the other hand is pretty damn funny.

Ehhh, again, it states it’s technically wrong, and I knew that the meaning of “flaunt” in other contexts had the opposite meaning well before today. On the other hand, it’s been in common usage in the manner I used since long before I was born, and my meaning seemed to be understood clearly. So if someone on a message board corrects me, I’m not going to really care. If I was corrected in my professional writing, I’d care.

We’re on a message board, so I don’t care.

Should that be “were”?

Heheh, I honestly have no idea which would be “correct” in the current fashion.

You don’t care so badly you went off and googled a cite to try to back yourself up.

I actually looked it up to figure out how that construction got into my head in the first place. So I did learn something. It also made me laugh at prescriptivists a bit and also made me understand their pain a tiny amount. Man, that’s a Sisyphean task.

well,…

pretty much describes most of the Sovereign Citizen events here.

Kinda? Certainly the over-the-top part. But again, it’s “laws” they make up themselves, and “obey” mostly in the sense of insisting everyone else obey. (The core conceit of the soverign citizen ethos is “laws for thee, but not for me.”)

I never thought about it that way. But yeah, Sovcit thinking only works if it’s limited to a few people. If everyone used the “get out of laws free” card, society would collapse.

It’s a cheat code. Nothing more.

The difference being, actual cheat codes work. Sovcit BS doesn’t.

Quite right.

But our enforcement mechanisms are so sloppy that a SovCit who doesn’t go seeking a confrontation can be a tax cheat and scofflaw for years, nay decades, before their personal consequence chickens arrive home to roost.

And during that whole time they’re congratulating themselves on how well their cheat codes are working. And pocketing the sweet, sweet cash they’re no longer sending the mean old invalid government they don’t recognize.

Never mind the sovcits! Getting right with flout vs flaunt is the IMPORTANT thing!

And don’t let’s even get started on stanch vs staunch ! (That’s my pet peef.)

With all respect to a fine poster, ignorance is common, too. That doesn’t make it right. And the “flaunt” vs “flout” thing is a really classic example of simple confusion that gets promulgated through repetition and eventually common use as if they were synonyms. It’s not really prescriptivism to point out that they’re completely different words that just happen to sound the same but have no common etymology.