# Soviet films, books, etc. depicting an American invasion **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 18, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soviet-films-books-etc-depicting-an-american-invasion/616157 "2012-03-18T19:41:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soviet-films-books-etc-depicting-an-american-invasion/616157/21 "2013-01-26T05:10:26Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Dunno about Soviet fiction about a U.S. invasion, though there was a 1978 SPI tabletop game called _Objective: Moscow_. I still remember the print ad for it, which showed the U.S. flag flying from the top of one of the onion-domed churches on Red Square. That was a sequel. The original game was _Invasion: America_, which was about North America (the United States, allied Canada, and occupied Mexico) being invaded by an alliance of the European Socialist Coalition, the Pan Asiatic League, and the South American Union. The game was released in 1976 and was a big success so they followed it up in 1978 with _Objective: Moscow_, in which the Cold War went the other way and it was the Soviet Union being invaded. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soviet-films-books-etc-depicting-an-american-invasion/616157/22 "2013-01-26T05:18:25Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > _Cold War_ flavor? It was serialized _before_ Pearl Harbor. It has a distinct WWII – or arguable even earlier – flavor. It was pub;lished in book form after the war, in 1949, but without any major changes AFAIK. > > It’s based on John W. Campbell’s even earlier _All_ (which wasn’t published until the 1970s. I’ve read it – it’s awful.) _Sixth Column_ was probably also inspired by the earlier German invasion genre which was popular in Britain before WWI. This genre started with _[The Battle of Dorking](http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0602091h.html)_ and ran through _[The Riddle of the Sands](http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2360)_. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soviet-films-books-etc-depicting-an-american-invasion/616157/23 "2013-01-26T11:05:09Z")
Invasion literature has been common since at least 1871. There were a lot of British novels about how Germany was going to invade the U.K. The American novels about the Soviets invading were relatively late on the scene: > **[Invasion literature](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_literature)** > > Invasion literature (also the invasion novel) is a literary genre that was popular in the period between 1871 and the First World War (1914–1918). The invasion novel first was recognized as a literary genre in the UK, with the novella The Battle of Dorking: Reminiscences of a Volunteer (1871), an account of a German invasion of England, which, in the Western world, aroused the national imaginations and anxieties about hypothetical invasions by foreign powers; by 1914 the genre of invasion literat... ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soviet-films-books-etc-depicting-an-american-invasion/616157/24 "2013-01-26T14:03:57Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Not entirely in line with the OP but Ralph Peters’ book **Red Army** is the story of a Soviet invasion of Europe told entirely from the Soviet perspective. > > The Soviets win. [spoiler]By the skin of their teeth. IIRC (it’s been 10 years since I last read it), the US forces had stopped the Soviets cold in the south, and the only breakthrough was in the north, between the British and Germans. There was a huge American counterattack north to cut off the breakout, and at that point, the Germans (I think) sued for peace. The book was more of a cautionary tale to try and illustrate the way the Soviet doctrine was supposed to have worked, along with some interesting and human characters. (I was pretty fond of the artillery Colonel who liked to garden, myself) [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Ruslan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Ruslan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruslan)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soviet-films-books-etc-depicting-an-american-invasion/616157/25 "2013-02-01T23:21:47Z")
Soviet film about Sherlock Holmes highly appreciated Queen of England - she said it was the best film about Holmes and presented the award. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soviet-films-books-etc-depicting-an-american-invasion/616157/26 "2013-02-02T04:34:04Z")
> [@Ruslan](#): > > Soviet film about Sherlock Holmes highly appreciated Queen of England - she said it was the best film about Holmes and presented the award. As a Sherlock Holmes fan, I must politely ask for a cite. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soviet-films-books-etc-depicting-an-american-invasion/616157/27 "2013-02-02T04:38:10Z")
> [@Ruslan](#): > > Soviet film about Sherlock Holmes highly appreciated Queen of England - she said it was the best film about Holmes and presented the award. [Yakov Smirnov/]: In Soviet Russia, film appreciate YOU! ---
**Author:** ![Ruslan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Ruslan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruslan)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/soviet-films-books-etc-depicting-an-american-invasion/616157/28 "2013-02-11T15:32:07Z")
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