# Spammers have reached a new level of EVIL

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 28, 2002, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036 "2002-04-28T01:25:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/21 "2002-04-28T04:36:11Z")

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I kinda doubt the ‘troll’ theory, or at least the ‘targeted troll attack’ theory. I don’t exactly piss-off too many people, but there the messages are. Many of the othes that have already posted are equally, or even less, offensive.

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/22 "2002-04-28T04:37:12Z")

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Victim here. On my school account. Sheesh.

> [@](#):
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> on vac - if you are a friend then you know how to reach me

That was one of the messages. What the fuck?

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/23 "2002-04-28T04:43:17Z")

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That dude was on vacation (Or vac, he must think he’s “hip”) (probably just insulted someone on this board, oh well…)

This thread is growing at lightspeed. If this happened at 9 AM Monday, this board would overload and explode, burning down Chicago again. This would cause mass rioting, and the banning of internet Spam, and real SPAM, so then Treet would become the dominant meat in a can. I sense conspiracy from the folks at Treet (Armour, IIRC), good thing their email backfired and went off early! Western Civilization is saved again…

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**Author:** ![Wicked\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/2acd7d/32.png) [@Wicked\_Blue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wicked_Blue)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/24 "2002-04-28T04:50:52Z")

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I got it too, but not with the email addy I use here.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/25 "2002-04-28T04:59:59Z")

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Yep, I’ve been hit too. I usually do nothing when I get these things, and they go away by themselves. (I am afraid that by unsubscribing I’ll just encourage them.) Assholes.

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**Author:** ![tygre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@tygre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tygre)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/26 "2002-04-28T04:59:59Z")

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I got these today too. All came to my public email, which is the same one listed on the SDMB. I got maybe 25 copies of each, not an enormous amount of mail for me, but it was still quite irritating.

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**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/27 "2002-04-28T05:16:32Z")

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Nice to know I’m not alone. Can we plan some sort of collective revenge? (C’mon, we’re smart people here!)

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/28 "2002-04-28T05:25:29Z")

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I, too, got the “You’re using my old E-mail address” one, and a few replies. I ignored it at the time, as that E-mail account gets a lot of Spam. I just filter all incoming E-mail into my Junk Mail folder and, after a cursory scan for anything useful, just delete it all.

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**Author:** ![Broken\_Doll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bbce88/32.png) [@Broken\_Doll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broken_Doll)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/29 "2002-04-28T05:40:05Z")

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How about you all send him spam to his private email address? See how he likes it.

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**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/30 "2002-04-28T06:32:44Z")

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I would be MORE than fucking happy to help in any sort of revenge, seeing as I just cleared out my non-spam e-mail after seeing SIXTY FUCKING MESSAGES. …allright, admittedly, like five of them were personal messages, but fuckin’ still…

I’d think in this case, though, legal action would be best. Also, it would be good to have someone save all of the messages sent out (evidence, you know).

I doubt it’s everyone who pissed off a troll…the only person I’ve pissed off/flamed was Bossk/whatever his other incarnation was. Otherwise, I’m a perfect **Angel** :D.

Fuckers. :mad:

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**Author:** ![tirial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@tirial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tirial)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/31 "2002-04-28T06:45:12Z")

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One thing you could try - find out who he registered the domain name for any websites he is advertising with and send them a letter of complaint (attach a copy of the spam). Some host companies and registrars will pull it.

Then find out everywhere the message went through to reach you and send them a complaint. With luck at least one will block messages from that address. With more luck, one of them’s a civil server (.edu or the like) which can send nasty legal letters to him about using their bandwidth.

Then, if you can find his personal email address, send him a copy of the above letter, as well as contacting his personal host with a similar letter about his conduct.

Not quite the same situation, thank god, but the above did stop [satellite.com](http://satellite.com) from email bombing (possibly unintentionally) my account with over 300 messages in 30 minutes, each night.

Failing that, if he won’t unsubscribe you, forward any messages you receive from the list back to his personal account.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix\_Dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Phoenix\_Dragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phoenix_Dragon)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/32 "2002-04-28T06:45:36Z")

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I got hit by that raraavisband thing, too. Opened up my email and got nailed by SEVENTY NINE fucking spam mails. On an account that gets maybe two or three a month, tops. And the unsubscribe message bounces, “host name unknown”. Bleh…

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**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/33 "2002-04-28T06:56:19Z")

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You need to send you emails to Steve Richards - the guy who publishes the newsletter : [steverichards@sobevideo.com](mailto:steverichards@sobevideo.com)

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**Author:** ![tavalla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tavalla/32/89_2.png) [@tavalla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tavalla)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/34 "2002-04-28T07:18:45Z")

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Thanks for that address, **reprise**. I had about 80 of the fucking things cluttering up my yahoo acct (yep, that’s the one I use for the SDMB).

Fucking spamming idiots.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/35 "2002-04-28T08:19:43Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by DarkWriter \*  
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> I got about 20 of those fucking Raraavisband newsletter emails today. The subject line was “You’re using my old email address.” The sender was [badrats@badrat.com](mailto:badrats@badrat.com).\*\*

Me too.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

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**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/36 "2002-04-28T08:27:35Z")

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badrats wasn’t actually sending them, it’s listbot was replying to the list every time someone emailed the list because it was on auto-responder. badrats have no idea how THEIR addy got on the list either.

The list itself seems to belong to Steve Richards of sobevideo. Check the ATMB thread for more info.

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**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/37 "2002-04-28T09:44:22Z")

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Hit me as well. I think he also might have harvested e-mail addys from Yahoo groups, but that is just a theory.  
Fucking pusbag.

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**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/38 "2002-04-28T09:49:37Z")

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He’s harvested them from somewhere apart from the SDMB - I’ve got an email from a non-Doper asking me if I have any idea how their addy ended up on the list.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/39 "2002-04-28T10:04:37Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by cercaria \*  
> Yep, got that one too, along with half a billion “out of office” autoreponses and four or five people responding to the auto responders saying “WTF are you talking about??! I never e-mailed u!!!” :rolleyes: I finally responded to the mailing list telling the spammers how intelligent I found them, hoping that some of the people freaking out would get a clue. Funny, I never got a copy of my e-mail from the mailing list…

Yeah, I got those too. I unsubscribed.

Pissantfuckingd2motherfuckers.

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/40 "2002-04-28T10:26:44Z")

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I’m acutally really glad to see this thread. When I checked my mail this morning and found 20 “you are using my old email address” letters, my first thought was “oh, fuck what did I get infected with?”

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