# Spammers have reached a new level of EVIL

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 28, 2002, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036 "2002-04-28T01:25:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![PublicBlast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/779978/32.png) [@PublicBlast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PublicBlast)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/41 "2002-04-28T10:36:39Z")

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Also nice to know I’m not alone–except that I was hit with ads for inkjet printer cartridges, not this band everyone’s talking about. Anybody else get the inkjet ad? I think the originator was [www.ink-jet.com](http://www.ink-jet.com).

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/42 "2002-04-28T10:51:05Z")

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I tried to find everyone associated with this spam and email them, and I got this reply from the web hosting service:

> [@](#):
>
> This account was terminated as soon as we became aware of the spamming  
> that was done as per our terms of use (viewable at  
> [www.sbwh.com/termsofuse.html](http://www.sbwh.com/termsofuse.html)). Sorry for the inconvenience this has  
> caused you.
> 
> Santa Barbara Web Hosting, Inc.

To see the full letter, go to ATMB.

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**Author:** ![tavalla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tavalla/32/89_2.png) [@tavalla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tavalla)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/43 "2002-04-28T10:57:47Z")

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:round of applause in **Lynn Bodoni** ’s general direction:

Nice job.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/44 "2002-04-28T11:04:24Z")

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Thanks **Lynn** 🙂 . I only got two of them before blocking the address, but it looks like I got off easy compared to most. Glad to see at least some minor measure of justice done.

( By the way it was my hotmail address that I have listed publically here ).

- Tamerlane

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**Author:** ![kferr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@kferr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kferr)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/45 "2002-04-28T11:43:18Z")

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I got about 15 of the badrats related messages. It was on the account I use here and for sites likely to produce spam. I’m about to the maximum number of filters I can use, so I may just shut that one down and start over.

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**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/46 "2002-04-28T11:51:51Z")

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badrats wasn’t the problem - they turned off their bot as soon as they were made aware of what was happening, so you don’t need to worry about receiving stuff from them again. They ALSO have no idea how they ended up on the sobevideo mailing list; it’s just that their bot was sending autoresponses to every email they received via the listserv.

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**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/47 "2002-04-28T11:52:50Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by particlewill \*  
> \*\*Hit me as well. I think he also might have harvested e-mail addys from Yahoo groups, but that is just a theory.  
> \*\*

Don’t think so. My daughter recieved about 25 in her hotmail account and she isn’t on any Yahoo group.

I am and I recieved somewhere around 35.

We do both have accounts at Audiogalaxy and at Neopets though.

I suspect they harvested them from more than one place.

Thank you, **Lynn**!!!

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/48 "2002-04-28T12:28:34Z")

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I got spammed, too. 50 freaking e-mails from badrats. Thanks for handling this, Lynn!!

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/49 "2002-04-28T12:46:45Z")

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I think this summarizes my feelings towards spammers quite nicely:

> [@](#):
>
> You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As we  
> say in Texas, you couldn’t pour water out of a boot with instructions  
> printed on the heel. You are a canker, an open wound. I would rather  
> kiss a lawyer than be seen with you. You took your last vacation in  
> the Islets of Langerhans.
> 
> You’re a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little  
> worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk,  
> a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a  
> stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.
> 
> You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared  
> richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth  
> into a hostile world. You are an insensate, blinking calf,  
> meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling  
> beasts who sired you and then died of shame in recognition of what  
> they had done. They were a bit late.
> 
> I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same  
> species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf  
> at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut.  
> Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You  
> are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention  
> that you smell?
> 
> You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up,  
> drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set  
> you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the  
> frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the  
> queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs.
> 
> You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid,  
> nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You’re a fool, an  
> ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won’t have sex with  
> you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost  
> in a land that reality forgot. You are not ANSI compliant. You  
> have a couple of address lines shorted together. You should be  
> promoted to Engineering Manager.
> 
> And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important  
> statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us?  
> What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your  
> tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous  
> desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of  
> the snake?
> 
> You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and  
> obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living  
> emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a  
> loathsome disease, a puerile slack-jawed drooling meatslapper. You  
> make Quakers shout and strike Pentecostals silent. You are the kind  
> of person who would remove this reference to Version 5.40 and to  
> [https://www.GuyMacon.com/index.html](http://www.guymacon.com/insult.txt) so people will think that  
> you wrote this. Your mother had to tie a pork chop around your neck  
> just to get your dog to play with you. You think P.D.Q. Bach is  
> the greatest composer who ever lived. You prefer L. Ron Hubbard to  
> Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. Hee-Haw is too deep for you. You  
> would watch test patterns all day if the other inmates would let you.
> 
> On a good day you’re a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are  
> deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality  
> of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted.  
> You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and  
> sorrow wherever you go.
> 
> You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off,  
> pillock. You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john.  
> You clouted boggish foot-licking half-twit. You dankish clack-dish  
> plonker. You gormless crook-pated tosser. You bloody churlish  
> boil-brained clotpole ponce. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup  
> pratting naff. You cockered bum-bailey poofter. You gob-kissing  
> gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted  
> clapper-clawed flirt-gill.
> 
> You are so clueless that if we stripped you naked, soaked you in  
> clue musk, and dropped you into a field full of horny clues, You  
> still would not have a clue.
> 
> You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are  
> degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing  
> you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go  
> away.
> 
> I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard  
> stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it  
> goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension  
> of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid  
> collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed.  
> Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity  
> stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more  
> stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year.  
> Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our  
> universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial  
> fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence  
> of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the  
> laws of physics that we know. I’m sorry. I can’t go on. This is an  
> epiphany of stupid for me. After this, you may not hear from me  
> again for a while. I don’t have enough strength left to deride  
> your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant  
> trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh.
> 
> The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have  
> snipped away most of your of what you wrote, because, well…  
> it didn’t really say anything. Your attempt at constructing a  
> creative flame was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together  
> a bunch of insults among a load of babbling was hardly effective…  
> Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell,  
> and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary  
> skills that many of us “normal” people take for granted that  
> everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget  
> that there are “challenged” persons in this world who find these  
> things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then  
> I would have never read your post. It just wouldn’t have been  
> “right”. Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the  
> best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be  
> placing such a demand on you.
> 
> P.S.:  
> You are hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful,  
> cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable,  
> belligerent, opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal,  
> fascistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic,  
> brain-damaged, imbecilic, insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented,  
> lame, self-righteous, byzantine, conspiratorial, satanic,  
> fraudulent, libelous, bilious, splenetic, spastic, ignorant,  
> clueless, illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb evasive,  
> double-talking, devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative,  
> paternalistic, fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical,  
> cultic, diseased, suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant,  
> deceptive, dim, crazy, weird, dystopic, stifling, uncaring,  
> plantigrade, grim, unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious,  
> secretive, aggressive, mind-numbing, arassive, poisonous, flagrant,  
> self-destructive, abusive, socially-retarded, puerile, and  
> Generally Not Good.

Read through to find my source. 🙂

Sorry about the formatting.

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**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/50 "2002-04-28T12:50:32Z")

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Y’all rule. Thank the freakin’ gods. I got a bunch of these yesterday too…and some of the replies were to “ianna @ [verizon.net](http://verizon.net)” which has **never even been an email address of mine**. I’m thinking since Verizon absorbed [Bellatlantic.net](http://Bellatlantic.net), maybe I am both ianna @ [bellatlantic.net](http://bellatlantic.net) AND ianna @ [verizon.net](http://verizon.net) without knowing about it.

Anyhow, I send a long, detailed email to [abuse@verizon.net](mailto:abuse@verizon.net). Since it looks like the problem has already been contained at its source, now I’m just hoping they clear up this whole “[bellatlantic.net/verizon.net](http://bellatlantic.net/verizon.net)” thing with my email accounts. 😃

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/51 "2002-04-28T14:41:24Z")

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I heard on the news this morning that some fool advertiser said, “Those who block pop-up ads on their internet account are violating an unwritten contract.”

First, fool: I did not enter into a freaking contract with you. I entered into, and pay for, a contract with my ISP. I like their service and thus I continue to patronize them.

Second, fool: I actually do click on banner ads on occasion if the site displaying such banners is to my liking and the advertised item on the banner is also to my liking.

Third, fool: I am the one who purchased my computer; therefore, I am the one who decides what gets displayed how on my terminal. When I go to a webpage, I fully expect the displayed page to be that particular webpage. I do not want, and certainly do not expect, your cruddy advertisement to appear either in place of, or immediately over, thus blocking, the webpage I told my computer I expect to be displayed.

Fourth, fool: QUIT USING UNETHICAL STUNTS TO SELL YOUR CRAP! Yes, I do keep a bit of a list of crap I shall never buy because I don’t like the advertising stunts pulled to try to sell them. And, yes, you fool, X-Cam is one of those items.

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**Author:** ![The\_Big\_Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@The\_Big\_Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Big_Cheese)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/52 "2002-04-28T16:16:45Z")

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Ditto on badrats, lucky though, only 20 emails. pissed me off enough to get a new address, I’ll let the old one die.

I’d really love our legislators to do something about this. We’re getting reamed so bad.

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**Author:** ![lolagranola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ea5d25/32.png) [@lolagranola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lolagranola)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/53 "2002-04-28T16:31:28Z")

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Feynn and I got hit too. And it was on my only spam-free account!

Glad to see the mess has been cleared up.

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**Author:** ![edwino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@edwino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwino)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/54 "2002-04-28T17:17:19Z")

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Me too. Around 20. Die, scum.

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**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/55 "2002-04-28T20:00:56Z")

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I got smacked with 30-odd pieces of this purulent slime. For a few minutes, I was thinking I’d downloaded a trojan horse, somewhere, by mistake! It was my AOL account that got hit yesterday, with the usual replies that all y’all had gottten.

I should ask if anyone else in my house, using this computer, noticed the same thing.

Fuck you. Fuck you slowly with a runnning chainsaw lubricated with pig shit! You are the dumbest drooling dipshit, it has ever been my displeasure to meet your filthy troglodyde self. The gutters vomited when you were nearby! Shit is unhappy to have been associated with you.Take those worthless bits of infected fungus that you call a brain and find a toxic waste dump to die in, because you are not fit to associate with anyone else on this planet. Asshole!

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/56 "2002-04-28T23:24:18Z")

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**Monty** , do you happen to sound like Mr. T?

[sub]Ah pity tha foo who spams T![/sub]

😃

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2002, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/57 "2002-04-29T01:12:29Z")

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Hah, Derleth! I didn’t even make that connection. So, if one were to substitute “punk” for fool, then that would be Dirty Harry?

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**Author:** ![Narile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Narile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Narile)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2002, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spammers-have-reached-a-new-level-of-evil/106036/58 "2002-04-29T02:41:10Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by Arden Ranger \*  
> \*\*
> 
> Don’t think so. My daughter recieved about 25 in her hotmail account and she isn’t on any Yahoo group.
> 
> I am and I recieved somewhere around 35.
> 
> We do both have accounts at Audiogalaxy and at Neopets though.
> 
> I suspect they harvested them from more than one place.
> 
> Thank you, **Lynn**!!! \*\*

I don’t think they are harvesting from Neopets, since the address I use for neopets didn’t get any spam.

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