# Spartacus War of the Damned

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 26, 2013, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432 "2013-01-26T14:18:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/21 "2013-02-13T11:34:53Z")

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Favorite line so far:

“My cock is magic!”

“Well then, make it disappear from sight.”

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/22 "2013-02-24T12:19:29Z")

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> [@xizor](#):
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> Boy is daddy going to be pissed when he finds out what junior did to his army.

Damn he was pissed :eek: The worst thing is…that really happened.

Look like the Crixus-Spartacus split is going to happen v soon. It’s all Naveia’s fault.

What is up with cute slavegirl. What is with her almost maternal or at least elder sisterly concern for Crassus Jr?

While this Ceaser is big Jupiter’s cock to historical accuracy, he is an interesting character.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/23 "2013-02-24T16:33:58Z")

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Well they are doing a good job this season of turning the slave army into people you want to root _against_. Navea especially.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/24 "2013-02-26T05:11:40Z")

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I hope if nine of my friends were asked to beat me to death, they’d at least aim for the head instead of focusing on the body in what seems to be the most famous way possible.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/25 "2013-02-26T05:17:34Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> famous way possible.

Errr..“painful way possible”. Weird typo.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/26 "2013-02-26T08:51:44Z")

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Wouldn’t you want your compound leg fractures to be widely-known and long-remembered?

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/27 "2013-02-26T14:27:16Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> I hope if nine of my friends were asked to beat me to death, they’d at least aim for the head instead of focusing on the body in what seems to be the most famous way possible.

They were really more like coworkers.😃  
Speaking of which, I may have HR add “decimation” to our management handbooks.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/28 "2013-02-26T14:32:18Z")

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BTW, was I reading into the situation or was the show implying that Tiberius (Crassus’ son) was the lover of his friend, the one who was beaten to death in the last episode?

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/29 "2013-02-26T14:38:09Z")

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I have come away thinking that Decimated Dude had an unrequited crush on Junior.

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**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/30 "2013-02-26T16:38:11Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> I have come away thinking that Decimated Dude had an unrequited crush on Junior.

This was my take on it as well. More puppy love than mutual admiration. Definitely not lovers.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/31 "2013-03-03T06:26:26Z")

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Now THAT was a good episode. Ceaser has grown on me and the reality of slavery was really shown by Tiberius.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/32 "2013-03-10T04:47:02Z")

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A great episode. Ceaser showing signs of his future. Crassus as well, though he is still the most compelling villain since Batiatus.  
As an aside, that is why Blood and Sand and the prequel were so good. John Hannah and he is who has been lacking since.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/33 "2013-03-10T06:15:02Z")

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I enjoyed it as well. They are kinda having trouble running up against history though. It was interesting to see how Spartacus would get to the end we knew was coming, but now that he’s there its kinda boring watching him stumble towards the inevitable.

The Romans are still interesting though.

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> A great episode. Ceaser showing signs of his future. Crassus as well, though he is still the most compelling villain since Batiatus.

There was some talk of doing a “Ceaser” spin-off. I’d give it a try, though I’d think it would be kinda hard to do since a) Ceaser is going to spend the next few decades marching around the woods in Gaul, far away from most other historical personages b) They’d start running into material that was recently covered by HBO’s similar Rome series c) DeKnight and the Whedons are already involved in other upcoming projects, and a show with different writers probably wouldn’t be as cool.

I think a “Marius v. Sulla” prequel would be cool. The late Republic has a lot of great stuff you could film and yet never seems to get much attention compared to the period immediately following. And you could have a young Crassus and (in later seasons) Caesar to tie it into the current series.

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**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/34 "2013-03-11T14:04:57Z")

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I’m having a hard time with the Caesar character. First, he looks too much like Brad Pit which takes me out of the story (What’s Brad Pit doing in Spartacus?) Secondly, he wasn’t there as far as I know. The rest of the story tries to work with real characters who were really there, then they inject this almost mythical figure and turn him into an undercover assassin.

> [@Simplicio](#):
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> I think a “Marius v. Sulla” prequel would be cool. The late Republic has a lot of great stuff you could film and yet never seems to get much attention compared to the period immediately following. And you could have a young Crassus and (in later seasons) Caesar to tie it into the current series.

Now that is a show I would watch. The blood, sex and intrige of Spartacus would fit perfectly into a Sulla story.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/35 "2013-03-11T14:37:22Z")

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> [@shiftless](#):
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> I’m having a hard time with the Caesar character. First, he looks too much like Brad Pit which takes me out of the story (What’s Brad Pit doing in Spartacus?) Secondly, he wasn’t there as far as I know. The rest of the story tries to work with real characters who were really there, then they inject this almost mythical figure and turn him into an undercover assassin.

There doesn’t seem to be any record of what he was doing at the time. But he was in the military, in Italy, and he was later a client of Crassus, so it isn’t unlikely he took part in the Servile War (granted, probably not as an undercover assassin).

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**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/36 "2013-03-11T14:46:32Z")

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Does Tiberius take you out of the story too? Crassus had no such son. It makes me think that Caesar will ultimately kill him.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/37 "2013-03-16T15:50:04Z")

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Seems Crixus will not abandon Sparty before the end. Just three episodes to do. Does Kore the slavegirl have a plan?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/38 "2013-03-16T21:24:36Z")

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Likely the biggest impediment to the historical Julius Caesar going undercover as an escaped slave would be his patrician accent, which I expect would give him away immediately as an upper-class Roman.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/39 "2013-03-16T22:51:33Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Likely the biggest impediment to the historical Julius Caesar going undercover as an escaped slave would be his patrician accent, which I expect would give him away immediately as an upper-class Roman.

Eh, guy can conquer France, he can probably learn to fake an accent.

Cool episode. Nice to see Sparty back on top.

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**Author:** ![Charley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/97f17d/32.png) [@Charley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charley)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/40 "2013-03-17T10:16:28Z")

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Is anyone else having a problem with the verbal styling/tick they’re using? I mean the one where they drop the definite or indefinite article from the sentence. So we get something like “turn thoughts from woman and to purpose of death of hated Romans” and that kind of thing?

I’ve noticed it from the first series, although it became more prevalent in the prequel. When John Hannah did it, I thought he got away with it. Now, though, they seem to have ramped it up and it’s starting to obsess me. Combine that with, as someone said above, the fact that most of the time I’m no longer sure who they’re shagging or killing, or why, and I have to say, I’m just waiting this series out. My husband is still loving it, and I’m in the room while it’s on, but I’m not into it any more. The cut-price Brad Pitt is distracting too, and if he didn’t keep reminding us he’s Caesar I think I’d forget. He’s not exactly noble and soon-to-be-godly.

The sentence construction does provide us with endless hours of amusement at home, though. After an episode we do tend to talk in the same way for a while, which tickles us mightily (the only example that springs to mind is far TMI to share, trust me). What can I say? it’s been a long winter, we’ve resorted to making our own entertainment.

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