# Spartacus War of the Damned

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 26, 2013, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432 "2013-01-26T14:18:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/41 "2013-03-17T21:28:26Z")

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Each their own. I like the pseudo-Latin phrasing. Certainly its less annoying then adopting faux-accents, which is the usual way TV shows try and make things seem foreign. If nothing else, it adds to the humour.

> [@Charley](#):
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> The cut-price Brad Pitt is distracting too, and if he didn’t keep reminding us he’s Caesar I think I’d forget. He’s not exactly noble and soon-to-be-godly.

He’s got a few decades till he crosses the Rubicon. At the time of the Servile Wars his family has been ruined by Sulla, and he’s trying to work his way back up from the bottom (hence his need in the TV show for Crassus to cover his debts). So I find a younger Caeser having a “nothing to loose” kinda attitude believable. If nothing else, its nice to see them go with something other then the usual calculating, aristocratic characterization that’s been done to death other places.

(I can even see this Caeser being a successful lawyer, in the “Jeff Winger” mold of spouting sincere sounding BS without caring if its got anything to do with whats being argued.)

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/42 "2013-03-17T23:02:54Z")

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I like how Gannicus’s German girlfriend’s winter gear consists of the same Xena Warrior Princess bikini she always wears…plus a fur cape.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/43 "2013-03-18T07:51:51Z")

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“Hey, you think anyone will notice us tossing hundreds of corpses into the trench?”

“Nah, keep throwing.”

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**Author:** ![Charley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/97f17d/32.png) [@Charley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charley)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/44 "2013-03-18T18:52:12Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> So I find a younger Caeser having a “nothing to loose” kinda attitude believable. If nothing else, its nice to see them go with something other then the usual calculating, aristocratic characterization that’s been done to death other places.

Actually, that’s an entirely fair point. I think I bought into Colleen McCullough’s Caesar so heavily, anything else doesn’t sit right in my head. The Caesar in my head has way too much dignitas, even at this young age, to behave in this way. Risk taking, yes, but not … trivial… I suppose.

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**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/45 "2013-03-18T19:10:02Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Each their own. I like the pseudo-Latin phrasing. Certainly its less annoying then adopting faux-accents, which is the usual way TV shows try and make things seem foreign. If nothing else, it adds to the humour.

I come and go on the pseudo-Latin. Sometimes I hardly notice it, then one phrase will be either particularly well turned or else so stilted that it stands out and I’m reminded they aren’t talking straight English.

I have to say I have been pleasantly surprised by the twists and turns the writers have managed to find in the story. Every week I wonder, how’s Sparty going to get out of this one, and the writers find a plausible way. It could easily be a boring war story (with blood and sex and more blood) but I’d buy it for the twists and turns.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/46 "2013-03-19T03:03:28Z")

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> [@shiftless](#):
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> …Every week I wonder, how’s Sparty going to get out of this one, and the writers find a plausible way. …

Let me guess. It involves killing and fucking.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/47 "2013-03-19T13:24:19Z")

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Doesn’t everything?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/48 "2013-03-19T13:25:44Z")

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I dunno. I haven’t killed or fucked anyone this week… yet.

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**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/49 "2013-03-19T13:54:20Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Let me guess. It involves killing and fucking.

Don’t be silly. You forgot both drinking and piling dead bodies in a trench. Who hasn’t turned to these in difficult situations? Am I right?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/50 "2013-03-19T16:50:49Z")

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So when and how can we expect Julius’s historical rival to show up? What will be the Pompey circumstances?

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**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/51 "2013-03-19T18:01:32Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> I like how Gannicus’s German girlfriend’s winter gear consists of the same Xena Warrior Princess bikini she always wears…plus a fur cape.

Pretty much the same as the men.

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**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/52 "2013-03-19T18:02:47Z")

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> [@Charley](#):
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> Is anyone else having a problem with the verbal styling/tick they’re using? I mean the one where they drop the definite or indefinite article from the sentence. So we get something like “turn thoughts from woman and to purpose of death of hated Romans” and that kind of thing?
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> I’ve noticed it from the first series, although it became more prevalent in the prequel. When John Hannah did it, I thought he got away with it. Now, though, they seem to have ramped it up and it’s starting to obsess me. Combine that with, as someone said above, the fact that most of the time I’m no longer sure who they’re shagging or killing, or why, and I have to say, I’m just waiting this series out. My husband is still loving it, and I’m in the room while it’s on, but I’m not into it any more. The cut-price Brad Pitt is distracting too, and if he didn’t keep reminding us he’s Caesar I think I’d forget. He’s not exactly noble and soon-to-be-godly.
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> The sentence construction does provide us with endless hours of amusement at home, though. After an episode we do tend to talk in the same way for a while, which tickles us mightily (the only example that springs to mind is far TMI to share, trust me). What can I say? it’s been a long winter, we’ve resorted to making our own entertainment.

I think it has gotten more intrusive with each season. It was not so severe and less distracting in the original season.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/53 "2013-03-19T18:57:00Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> So when and how can we expect Julius’s historical rival to show up? What will be the Pompey circumstances?

Historically he’s in Spain till after most of Spartacus’s army is defeated. He shows up to finish off some of the survivors and then gets back to Rome first with news of the victory, stealing much of Crassus’s thunder.

So I doubt they’ll put him in. He doesn’t show up till after Sparty’s likely death and its kinda late to throw in a new character.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/54 "2013-03-21T12:04:30Z")

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What do you think will happen? Spartacus was never identified. I wonder if he will settle down as a farmer somewhere.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/55 "2013-03-23T11:35:44Z")

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Well Crixus is dead. As is Agron. There is actually no one from the first episode or season left alive, or the character has been changed.

Ceaser gets butt fucked literally by Junior. That has to i) hurt and ii) lead to some sort of vengeance in the future.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/56 "2013-03-23T20:56:04Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Well Crixus is dead. As is Agron. There is actually no one from the first episode or season left alive, or the character has been changed.
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> Ceaser gets butt fucked literally by Junior. That has to i) hurt and ii) lead to some sort of vengeance in the future.

Well…That was certainly never mentioned in the history books.

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**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/57 "2013-03-25T21:17:24Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Well…That was certainly never mentioned in the history books.

As they say, history is written by the winners. 🙂  
I am sure Caesar will get some revenge. Since BwanaBob mentioned upthread Junior is a made up figure, they can dispatch him anyway the writes like.

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**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/58 "2013-03-25T21:31:47Z")

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How many episodes are left? Is this the final season?

I have to admit, I’m watching more to finish the show than out of any significant engagement in the story or characters. I really enjoyed this show at first but this last season has left me a bit flat. Too much over-stylized slow-mo leaping up in the air yelling while camera does a 360-degree wrap around fighting. Not terribly compelling “bad guys” and the the “good guys” have at this point very heavily compromised themselves.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/59 "2013-03-25T21:39:02Z")

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How big was Crassus’ army before it attacked the 500 or so who with Crixus? It looked enormous.

And what is the term for those four-foot tall burning spheres? They looked fearsome, but didn’t seem to do very much damage.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartacus-war-of-the-damned/648432/60 "2013-03-25T23:36:38Z")

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> [@MeanJoe](#):
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> How many episodes are left? Is this the final season?

Two more episodes and the show is over for good.

I like this season a lot so far. I was a little worried about what they would do because they specifically spent a lot of time centering their show around the House of Batiatus and Capua. Without those, I was afraid that the show would get a little aimless based on some of the aimlessness in the last season. But they’ve done a good job introducing new characters that are decent after clearing the deck last time out. I really like Crassus as a character and Caesar isn’t bad, either.

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