# Spartydog, eat a bag of dicks. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2009, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493 "2009-02-19T02:04:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/1 "2009-02-19T02:04:04Z")
Sigh. I really hate doing this. When I returned to this board, I intended to avoid getting in to pit squabbles. That noted’ I am sick and God damn tired of bullshit like this: [Bigoted crap numbnuts posted in GD](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=507222). Who the fuck are you to call voters in mostly Southern states backwards and uneducated? Just because a majority of our voters chose a Republican over a Democrat, you think you’re better than us? You aren’t. Never have been. Never going to be. Believe it or not, it is entirely possible for someone to disagree with you on political issues AND be an intelligent, well educated person. Be advised that it is my sincere wish that you immediately contract an incurable, incredibly painful, but (in compliance with Pit rules) non-fatal disease that causes you to suffer extreme pain for all eternity, you sanctimonius pissant. ---
**Author:** ![JXJohns](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jxjohns/32/469_2.png) [@JXJohns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JXJohns)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/2 "2009-02-19T02:24:59Z")
> [@](#): > > Believe it or not, it is entirely possible for someone to disagree with you on political issues AND be an intelligent, well educated person. Good luck convincing the masses here of that. For the record, I agree with you. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/3 "2009-02-19T02:33:08Z")
Don’t mind him…he’s still mad over Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuce at the Super Bowl. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/4 "2009-02-19T02:35:52Z")
The problem is that once again the facts have a well known liberal bias. In rankings of states, the south lags in almost every category: health, education, divorce, income, teenage pregnancy, etc. [Here](http://www.statestats.com/sr04mlrnk.htm)is a site which ranks states by livability. Look at the bottom 5: Missisippi, Louisiana, South Carolina, Alabama, and Tennessee. People aren’t dumb because they vote Republican, they vote Republican because they are dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/5 "2009-02-19T02:36:09Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > S > Who the fuck are you to call voters in mostly Southern states backwards and uneducated? Just because a majority of our voters chose a Republican over a Democrat, you think you’re better than us? You aren’t. Never have been. Never going to be. The South is in fact less educated then the rest of the country, according to the US [census bureau](http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/education/004214.html): > [@](#): > > # The District of Columbia’s population had the highest proportion with a bachelor’s degree or higher at 45.7 percent, followed by Massachusetts (36.7 percent), Colorado (35.5 percent), New Hampshire (35.4 percent) and Maryland (35.2 percent). > > # At the regional level, the Midwest had the highest proportion of high school graduates (88.3 percent), followed by the Northeast (86.5 percent), the West (84.3 percent) and the South (83.0 percent). > > # The Northeast had the highest proportion of college graduates (30.9 percent), followed by the West (30.2 percent), the Midwest (26.0 percent) and the South (25.5 percent). Dunno about a good statistically measurable definition of “backwordness”, but if you want to propose one, we can see if it holds. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/6 "2009-02-19T02:38:32Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Who the fuck are you to call voters in mostly Southern states backwards and uneducated? Just because a majority of our voters chose a Republican over a Democrat, you think you’re better than us? You aren’t. Never have been. Never going to be. Well, all six of the states in that article (TX, MS, LA, AK, SC, ID) have below-average percentages of bachelor’s-or-higher degree holders, so the education bit isn’t all that untrue. [Cite](http://www.statemaster.com/graph/edu_bac_deg_or_hig_by_per-bachelor-s-degree-higher-percentage). Edit: Dammit, ninjaed while looking at other stuff on that site. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/7 "2009-02-19T02:42:57Z")
**Oakminster** is confused because his sister, mother, aunt and niece all have a masters degree. Of course they are all the same person. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/8 "2009-02-19T02:46:03Z")
Louisiana needs jobs and money bad. Real bad. If Jindahl is responsibly fulfilling his role as governor, he should be willing to crawl on his hands and knees to DC and kiss anything that is shoved towards him. That’s what his people need, that is what he should do for them. If your principles will not permit you to help your people, abandon your principles. Duh. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/9 "2009-02-19T02:53:14Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > **Oakminster** is confused because his sister, mother, aunt and niece all have a masters degree. Of course they are all the same person. Actually, asswipe, both my parents are retired professors. Two uncles and one aunt are currently college professors. I’ve got a J.D., my brother has a Masters, and another aunt holds a Masters. All different people. No incest going on. Sorry to disappoint you. ---
**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/10 "2009-02-19T02:56:42Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > The South is in fact less educated then the rest of the country, according to… It’s spelled “than,” pudknocker. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/11 "2009-02-19T02:58:11Z")
> [@Hyperelastic](#): > > It’s spelled “than,” pudknocker. I’m going to school in FL 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/12 "2009-02-19T03:00:14Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > The South is in fact less educated then the rest of the country, according to the US [census bureau](http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/education/004214.html): And yet, we understand that “less educated” does not mean the same thing as “uneducated”. Fancy that. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/13 "2009-02-19T03:02:03Z")
My guess would be that illiteracy and lack of high school graduation tracks race pretty closely. Idaho, Oregon, Iowa, Alaska–the whitest states–have very high literacy and graduation rates, while Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama, Lousiana–the blackest states–have low ones. This is the legacy of our nation’s racism, a racism that was particularly devastating in the South where states used illiteracy as a means of disenfranchisement most aggressively. But that means that most of the “uneducated” people we’re talking about are black people, who tend to vote Democratic, which sort of undermines **Spartydog** ’s point. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/14 "2009-02-19T03:02:12Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Actually, asswipe, both my parents are retired professors. Two uncles and one aunt are currently college professors. I’ve got a J.D., my brother has a Masters, and another aunt holds a Masters. All different people. No incest going on. Sorry to disappoint you. If they voted Republican it’s proof education isn’t always a cure for just plain stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/15 "2009-02-19T03:05:54Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > If they voted Republican it’s proof education isn’t always a cure for just plain stupid. :rolleyes: Right. Disagreeing with you on political topics automatically makes someone stupid. Come back when you’ve got an actual point. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/16 "2009-02-19T03:06:43Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Actually, asswipe, both my parents are retired professors. Two uncles and one aunt are currently college professors. I’ve got a J.D., my brother has a Masters, and another aunt holds a Masters. All different people. No incest going on. Sorry to disappoint you. "Well my father was a mechanic. His father was a mechanic. My mothers father was a mechanic, my 3 brothers are mechanics, 4 uncles on my fathers side… " ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/17 "2009-02-19T03:09:44Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > "Well my father was a mechanic. His father was a mechanic. My mothers father was a mechanic, my 3 brothers are mechanics, 4 uncles on my fathers side… " Brilliant. Pithy, even. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/18 "2009-02-19T03:11:38Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > My guess would be that illiteracy and lack of high school graduation tracks race pretty closely. Idaho, Oregon, Iowa, Alaska–the whitest states–have very high literacy and graduation rates, while Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama, Lousiana–the blackest states–have low ones. This is the legacy of our nation’s racism, a racism that was particularly devastating in the South where states used illiteracy as a means of disenfranchisement most aggressively. Right, so if white people are stupid it’s white people’s fault, and if black people are stupid, it’s…white people’s fault. Since Asians have higher IQ’s than whites, do whites get to take credit for that? Or would their IQs be higher still, if only whitey hadn’t kept the Asians down? ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/19 "2009-02-19T03:19:06Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > If they voted Republican it’s proof education isn’t always a cure for just plain stupid. \ > [@](#): > > Fighting ignorance since 1973 (It’s taking longer than we thought). \ Cecil, you’re losing the fight. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/20 "2009-02-19T03:19:44Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > No incest going on. Sorry to disappoint you. I’m not half as disappointed as your sister. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493.md?page=2)