# Spartydog, eat a bag of dicks. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2009, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493 "2009-02-19T02:04:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/21 "2009-02-19T03:20:55Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > I’m not half as disappointed as your sister. Classy, too. Got anything relevant? ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/22 "2009-02-19T03:24:45Z")
> [@Hyperelastic](#): > > Right, so if white people are stupid it’s white people’s fault, and if black people are stupid, it’s…white people’s fault. Since Asians have higher IQ’s than whites, do whites get to take credit for that? Or would their IQs be higher still, if only whitey hadn’t kept the Asians down? Is this sarcasm? If so, let me know. Because it sure looks like you’re asserting that black illiteracy is a consequence of some kind of racial IQ deficit and not Jim Crow. And that would certainly be worthy of it’s own pitting, or maybe just pity. ---
**Author:** ![HolyFreakingMoly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7ba0ec/32.png) [@HolyFreakingMoly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HolyFreakingMoly)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/23 "2009-02-19T03:25:34Z")
I live in TX. I’m educated, liberal, vote democrat, hate grits and chicken fried steak, whatever the fuck that is, and don’t have a southern accent (OK, I’m not from here)!! I’m sorry. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/24 "2009-02-19T03:27:09Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > :rolleyes: > > Right. Disagreeing with you on political topics automatically makes someone stupid. > Come back when you’ve got an actual point. Your traitorus party elected Bush on a platform of fear and lies, then went to a costly war on a platform of false fear and lies. You committed crimes against humanity including torture, sully America’s good name, to say nothing of the horrors. Then ran the economy into the ground. Your party though it’d be a good idea to run Palin, the the stupidest person next to Bush to ever live, as VP. Your party doesn’t care about America. The gutted economy is a result of “trickle down theory”. It just cares about forcing it’s false morality down people’s throats. Party of life eh? Tell that families of the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, and thousands of dead American service men you stupid inbreeding hypocrite. You’re the worst scum in this country. Your parties failed policies since 9/11 have done more damage to America then Osama’s biggest wet dream. I’ll never forgive republican traitors like you for what you’ve done to America. You’re slime. Your expresident is a war criminal. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/25 "2009-02-19T03:32:29Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > Your traitorus party elected Bush on aplatform of fear and lies, then went to a costly on a platform of false fear and lies. I’m not a Republican. > [@](#): > > You committed crimes against humanity including torture, sully America’s good name, to say nothing of the horrors ran the economy into the ground. No, I didn’t. > [@](#): > > Your party though it’d be a good idea to run Palin, the the stupidest person next to Bush to ever live, as VP. Not my party. > [@](#): > > Your party doesn’t care about America. The gutted economy is a result of “trickle down theory”. It just cares about forcing it’s false morality down people’s throats. Party of life eh? Tell that families of the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, and thousands of dead American service men you stupid inbreeding hypocrite. You’re the worst scum in this country. Your parties failed policies since 9/11 have done more damage to America then Osama’s biggest wet dream. Again, not my party. > [@](#): > > I’ll never forgive republican traitors like you for what you’ve done to America. You’re slime. Your expresident is a war criminal. Still not a Republican. Also not a traitor. Am an honorably discharged veteran, have been since 1992. When did you serve? ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/26 "2009-02-19T03:32:41Z")
Southern people may be very smart, but they sure seem to elect a lot of complete morons. (Although, since my state twice elected Rod Blagojevich as governor, who am I to talk?) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/27 "2009-02-19T03:40:08Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I’m not a Republican. > > No, I didn’t. > > Not my party. > > Again, not my party. > > Still not a Republican. Also not a traitor. Am an honorably discharged veteran, have been since 1992. When did you serve? Ahh apologies for thinking your were a republican then. Well it’s quite simple. Republicans in power to terrible things do America. Why would people put them in power? ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/28 "2009-02-19T03:41:57Z")
> [@Frostillicus](#): > > Southern people may be very smart, but they sure seem to elect a lot of complete morons. (Although, since my state twice elected Rod Blagojevich as governor, who am I to talk?) Exactly. Say what you want to about the “backward” (it’s spelled that way, **Simplicio**. I managed to figure that out even though I went to South Carolina public schools and got my masters’ degree at the University of South Carolina. With my shoes on.) South, I may hate the hell out of my governor but I can’t remember the last time one of them got arrested, went to jail, or was impeached. Go figure. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/29 "2009-02-19T03:42:43Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > My guess would be that illiteracy and lack of high school graduation tracks race pretty closely. Idaho, Oregon, Iowa, Alaska–the whitest states–have very high literacy and graduation rates, while Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama, Lousiana–the blackest states–have low ones. That’s not really true. Idaho and Oregon are on the high end of the middle (including GED), and Alaska isn’t even close to the whitest, with only 69% whites. In fact, if you take the lists of the whitest states and the states by highest percentage of people who have diplomas/GEDs by 25, the average difference in rank is 10.5, which to me sounds like the two are not strongly correlated at all. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/30 "2009-02-19T03:44:08Z")
Hey, cracker! You’re in the Pit! Whaddaya expect? “Perhaps if you offered a more cogent definition?” “Well, by ‘my ass’ and ‘your face’, I mean…” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/31 "2009-02-19T03:50:05Z")
Just to add, I know any number of first rate people from the South, and can attest that the South is a very good place to be from. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/32 "2009-02-19T04:08:28Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Actually, asswipe, both my parents are retired professors. Two uncles and one aunt are currently college professors. I’ve got a J.D., my brother has a Masters, and another aunt holds a Masters. All different people. No incest going on. Sorry to disappoint you. Yes, but two of your uncles are being professors with one aunt and both your parents, who had to “retire” from this “college”. Now in the South, does that make them five people, or just three? Is your “uncle” also your father? Your mother your “aunt”. This sounds like code for an incestuous orgy to me. Have you ever asked them? Are any of them cunning professors of languages? You have a J.D.? Well whoop de doo, so does J. Danforth Quayle. The most foolish idiots I know have a J.D. Your other aunt is holding a Masters? Is it your brother’s “Masters”. Do they have to say “Master may I”. ---
**Author:** ![dgrdfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@dgrdfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dgrdfd)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/33 "2009-02-19T04:09:11Z")
> [@Frostillicus](#): > > Southern people may be very smart, but they sure seem to elect a lot of complete morons. (Although, since my state twice elected Rod Blagojevich as governor, who am I to talk?) Yes, and those wonderfully liberal states like California and new York that have elected terrific public officials… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/34 "2009-02-19T04:12:41Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Just to add, I know any number of first rate people from the South, and can attest that the South is a very good place to be from. My aunt and cousins live in Texas. Aside from the unfortunate reaction to the Michigan word “Pop” (what you might call “Soda”) when they moved down there I can agree the South does have some quality people. I just wish they were better at choosing qualified representatives in an electionary manor. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/35 "2009-02-19T04:15:02Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Yes, but two of your uncles are being professors with one aunt and both your parents, who had to “retire” from this “college”. Now in the South, does that make them five people, or just three? Is your “uncle” also your father? Your mother your “aunt”. This sounds like code for an incestuous orgy to me. Have you ever asked them? Are any of them cunning professors of languages? You have a J.D.? Well whoop de doo, so does J. Danforth Quayle. The most foolish idiots I know have a J.D. Your other aunt is holding a Masters? Is it your brother’s “Masters”. Do they have to say “Master may I”. Impressive. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![dgrdfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@dgrdfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dgrdfd)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/36 "2009-02-19T04:15:33Z")
And I love how it’s acceptable to say that the South is backwards and uneducated - with the obvious implication that they are stupid, yet using the similar analysis you could say the same thing about blacks and Hispanics yet it’s wrong. ---
**Author:** ![AdmiralCrunch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6f9a4e/32.png) [@AdmiralCrunch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AdmiralCrunch)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/37 "2009-02-19T04:16:53Z")
For the billionth fucking time, adults can talk about demographics without having to constantly add caveats and qualifications. When someone says men are stronger than women, it doesn’t mean that every man is stronger than every woman. Or that no women are stronger than the average man. Or that the weakest man is stronger than the weakest woman. Please, everyone, stop being anecdotal stereotyping fuckwits. This thread started(kinda) with solid statistics and debate, and just turned into a generic blue vs. red bashing session. Just ignore the idiots and strawmen. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/38 "2009-02-19T04:30:49Z")
> [@Captain\_Carrot](#): > > That’s not really true. Idaho and Oregon are on the high end of the middle (including GED), and Alaska isn’t even close to the whitest, with only 69% whites. In fact, if you take the lists of the whitest states and the states by highest percentage of people who have diplomas/GEDs by 25, the average difference in rank is 10.5, which to me sounds like the two are not strongly correlated at all. Can you show your work? Just eyeballing the 2000 census statistics on race alongside the 2007 stats on HS education over 25, it looks to me like there’s a pretty strong relationship. It’s not clear to me that an avg. difference in rank of 10.5 is inconsistent with statistical correlation. But even if there isn’t a 50-state correlation because of outliers, my point was that in Mississippi and many other states (including NY), the undereducated are disproportionately black. So my point stands. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/39 "2009-02-19T04:40:55Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > Can you show your work? Just eyeballing the 2000 census statistics on race alongside the 2007 stats on HS education over 25, it looks to me like there’s a pretty strong relationship. It’s not clear to me that an avg. difference in rank of 10.5 is inconsistent with statistical correlation. > > But even if there isn’t a 50-state correlation because of outliers, my point was that in Mississippi and many other states (including NY), the undereducated are disproportionately black. So my point stands. [High School Graduation vs. White Percentage - Google Sheets](http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p6Jtd2YnGSF3M0IpECc3PEA) The column on the far right is the absolute difference between the white rank and the education rank, the column to the left of that is the education rank, and the column to the left of that is the white rank. Quite a few states have large differences, like WV (very white and shitty education) and AK (pretty non-white and good education). ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493/40 "2009-02-19T04:50:35Z")
Perhaps I’m a bit too uneducated, but I can’t eyeball that chart and say there doesn’t seem to be a statistical correlation. Correlation doesn’t mean there are no outliers. I’m not talking one-to-one, just statistically significant. But I’m not gonna ask you to run a regression, this is the Pit after all. Save your efforts for GQ. 🙂 And, of course, Alaska isn’t really feeling the effects of Jim Crow, which was my point. Perhaps I should have said that Jim Crow and educational deficits are correlated. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spartydog-eat-a-bag-of-dicks/486493.md?page=3)