# Speaking of bailing out Argentina **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 13, 2025, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-bailing-out-argentina/1024818 "2025-11-13T01:28:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-bailing-out-argentina/1024818/1 "2025-11-13T01:28:55Z")
Ignore the lips. The message is important. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/vGMz1fj-bt0/maxresdefault.jpg "On my way to Argentina to get my money’s worth in Heathcare") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGMz1fj-bt0) ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-bailing-out-argentina/1024818/2 "2025-11-13T01:36:36Z")
Well Trump did say “America First”. Just not this America. 🤷 ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-bailing-out-argentina/1024818/3 "2025-11-13T01:43:07Z")
I wonder why trump didn’t insist upon them dismantling their commie heath care system. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-bailing-out-argentina/1024818/4 "2025-11-13T02:02:41Z")
Funny enough, it is estimated that extending ACA subsidies for a year would cost about $38B, or less than what was sent to Argentina. > **[Fact-checking Democratic ACA subsidies talking points](https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/nov/11/ACA-subsidies-government-shutdown-Trump-Jeffries/)** > > COVID-19 era subsidies of the ACA will expire at the end of this year, leading to higher prices. A KFF poll found that Republicans make up 45% of adults who purchase their own insurance, mostly through the ACA marketplaces. > Extending the enhanced subsidies would cost about $350 billion over a decade including about $38 billion next year, the center-right [American Action Forum found.](https://www.americanactionforum.org/print/?url=https://www.americanactionforum.org/research/government-shutdown-the-cost-of-reauthorizing-the-enhanced-premium-tax-credits/) Though others estimate closer to $30B or $50B, it’s still in that range. Apparently others are making this point. [https://meidasnews.com/news/republicans-vote-no-on-using-argentina-bailout-money-for-aca-subsidies](https://meidasnews.com/news/republicans-vote-no-on-using-argentina-bailout-money-for-aca-subsidies) ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-bailing-out-argentina/1024818/5 "2025-11-13T03:27:50Z")
And isn’t USAID far less? Orange Asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-bailing-out-argentina/1024818/6 "2025-11-13T03:56:13Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > And isn’t USAID far less? It varies, but it’s usually between $40-50B. > **[USAspending.gov](https://www.usaspending.gov/agency/agency-for-international-development?fy=2025)** It had a budget of just over $30B this year before being cut, but as you can see that was low. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-bailing-out-argentina/1024818/7 "2025-11-13T15:31:03Z")
But there was no way for trumpenfuhrer to take a commission or receive a bribe on $40B going to US healthcare. OTOH, on $40B going to Argentina? Slam dunk. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-bailing-out-argentina/1024818/8 "2025-11-13T16:43:51Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > But there was no way for trumpenfuhrer to take a commission or receive a bribe on $40B going to US healthcare. I pointed out elsewhere that the same scam group responsible for the Melania meme coin also did one for Argentina. This one. > **[Argentina Freezes $507K in Libra Meme Coin Probe Tied to President Milei: Report](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/argentina-freezes-507k-libra-meme-125210766.html)** > > Argentina’s federal court has frozen over $507,000 in assets as part of an expanding investigation into the Libra (LIBRA) meme coin scandal that has drawn links to President Javier Milei. The move marks the latest escalation in what authorities... I would not be shocked if this is part of those shenanigans, maybe some embezzlement or laundering of some kind. > **[Melania Trump's name cited in fraud suit vs. meme coin maker](https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/rcna239463)** > > Investors in a failed cryptocurrency don't accuse the first lady of wrongdoing, but say she was used as "window dressing" for a scheme for the meme coin she promoted. The Melania coin launched just a couple days after Trump’s coin. And Milei, who runs Argentina, has been a Trump supporter. They are clearly in some kind of shady financial deal. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-bailing-out-argentina/1024818/9 "2025-11-13T17:09:02Z")
I guess money-grubbing, when they have more than they could ever spend, is more fun/ rewarding than anything all that money could do for them. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-bailing-out-argentina/1024818/10 "2025-11-13T17:20:23Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > But there was no way for trumpenfuhrer to take a commission or receive a bribe on $40B going to US healthcare. OTOH, on $40B going to Argentina? Slam dunk. Das righ! This isn’t just about money. It’s about leverage, which is better than money!