# Speaking of Brett Favre. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 11, 2006, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-brett-favre/383628 "2006-12-11T00:59:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Albert\_Rose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Albert\_Rose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Albert_Rose)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-brett-favre/383628/21 "2006-12-12T08:43:29Z")
Luxury Yacht/Throatwobbler Mangrove anyone? ---
**Author:** ![bob\_loblaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@bob\_loblaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_loblaw)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-brett-favre/383628/22 "2006-12-12T08:55:37Z")
[QUOTE=pulykamell] [Actually, the “kj” letter combination is pretty interesting](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kjell), as the “proper” pronunciation in Norweigian is like the “ch” in German “ich,” but is being replaced by the English “sh” among many speakers. [/QUOTE] … which is why the most common english equivalent is “sch” … sorta halfway between. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-brett-favre/383628/23 "2006-12-12T09:00:51Z")
> [@Gangster Octopus](#): > > His last name was pronounced NETS-kash Seems only appropriate for a professional hockey player, though, doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-brett-favre/383628/24 "2006-12-12T09:13:34Z")
[QUOTE=bob\_loblaw] … which is why the most common english equivalent is “sch” … sorta halfway between. [/QUOTE] How is “sch” halfway in between? Spelling-wise or pronunciation-wise? “Sch” is pronounced the same as “sh” in English. At least in my dialect, “shell” and “schell” would be the same. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-brett-favre/383628/25 "2006-12-12T15:44:43Z")
[QUOTE=pulykamell] How is “sch” halfway in between? Spelling-wise or pronunciation-wise? “Sch” is pronounced the same as “sh” in English. At least in my dialect, “shell” and “schell” would be the same. [/QUOTE] School? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-brett-favre/383628/26 "2006-12-12T16:59:08Z")
My favorite name pronunciation is Tallifiero, which in the sourthern US is pronounced Tolliver. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-brett-favre/383628/27 "2006-12-12T17:39:00Z")
[QUOTE=Leaffan] Strangely enough, we don’t seem to have much difficulty in Canada pronouncing it “Favre.” [/QUOTE] You mean putting an “eh” in it? ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-brett-favre/383628/28 "2006-12-12T17:51:53Z")
Havre de Grace, Maryland is typically pronounced Havver dee grayce Shame too, because ahhve duh grahss sounds much nicer. Also, knew a Des Jardins growing up who pronounced it dess JAR dins. Ugly. ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-brett-favre/383628/29 "2006-12-12T18:54:40Z")
[QUOTE=mangeorge] There is the classic “Sade”, the most excellent jazz singer. I think even she pronounces two or three different ways. [/QUOTE] I’ve only ever heard it pronounced Sha-Day! What other ways have you heard it? ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-brett-favre/383628/30 "2006-12-12T19:23:53Z")
[QUOTE=Stuffy] I’ve only ever heard it pronounced Sha-Day! What other ways have you heard it? [/QUOTE] Sar-day and Shar-day. Also Sa-day. The first two on PBS concerts. They usually attempt to get it right. I wonder if there’s anything on wikpedia? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-brett-favre/383628/31 "2006-12-12T19:32:39Z")
Golfer, Jose Maria Olazabal’s last name is pronounced “O-la-THA-Bul” for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-brett-favre/383628/32 "2006-12-12T19:55:17Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Golfer, Jose Maria Olazabal’s last name is pronounced “O-la-THA-Bul” for some reason. [/QUOTE] I don’t know who he is, but I’m guessing by that pronunciation that he’s Spanish, as “c” (before “e” & “i”) and “z” are pronounced close to English “th” in Castillian Spanish (the Spanish in Spain). ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-brett-favre/383628/33 "2006-12-12T20:12:02Z")
[QUOTE=mangeorge] Sar-day and Shar-day. Also Sa-day. The first two on PBS concerts. They usually attempt to get it right. I wonder if there’s anything on wikpedia? [/QUOTE] “Sade” is a nick for Folasade. It’s Nigerian, and I know a few. They’re all “Sha-day” or “Shar-Day.” I think the cassette of her first album had “Pronounced Shar-Day” on the spine. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-brett-favre/383628/34 "2006-12-12T20:18:41Z")
[QUOTE=pulykamell] I don’t know who he is, but I’m guessing by that pronunciation that he’s Spanish, as “c” (before “e” & “i”) and “z” are pronounced close to English “th” in Castillian Spanish (the Spanish in Spain). [/QUOTE] Yep, he is a native Spaniard. I guess that explains it. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-brett-favre/383628/35 "2006-12-12T20:33:01Z")
[QUOTE=Hippy Hollow] “Sade” is a nick for Folasade. It’s Nigerian, and I know a few. They’re all “Sha-day” or “Shar-Day.” I think the cassette of her first album had “Pronounced Shar-Day” on the spine. [/QUOTE] Yeah, that fits with what I’ve heard on radio stations too. It is a stretch, though, for someone who doesn’t know. I think I have that cassette somewhere. Thanks for the “horses mouth” report. 🆒 That’s the best explanation I’ve heard. mangeorge [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speaking-of-brett-favre/383628.md?page=1)