# Specialized Habitats And Microenvironments

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 6, 2021, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/specialized-habitats-and-microenvironments/948150 "2021-08-06T12:34:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/specialized-habitats-and-microenvironments/948150/61 "2022-05-28T22:38:01Z")

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> That’s clover growing in the foreground, so far as I can tell. I assume that’s a British invader - but if I’m wrong (and it’s something that grows in the original), please let me know.

We get some clover in the Indiana prairie, as clover has colonized pretty much every habitat around world that it can survive in. We don’t get as much clover as what is in your picture because the other prairie plants compete for space so you get a lot of different species in a very small area.

By coincidence I took some pictures of our local prairie a couple days ago. They’re on the way to you.

I tried taking a video because I wanted to capture some of the sound, like the birds, and succeeded, but apparently the resulting file is too big for my e-mail. Well, _that’s_ annoying. Now I’m trying to figure out how to move it off my phone.

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**Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/specialized-habitats-and-microenvironments/948150/62 "2022-05-29T14:19:05Z")

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Our town planted a [Miyawaki forest](https://urban-forests.com/miyawaki-method/) last year. It’s about the size of a tennis court and has a lot of small seedlings. It’s supposed to eventually grow into a forest, but frankly I don’t understand how something the size of a tennis court can function as a forest.

> **[Miyawaki Forest - Biodiversity for a Livable Climate](https://bio4climate.org/miyawaki-forest/)**
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> Miyawaki Forests - Cambridge, MA Miyawaki Forests are biodiverse native pocket forests that reestablish full, functioning ecosystems in the areas they are planted. Biodiversity for a Livable Climate has been involved in planting, supporting, and...

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/specialized-habitats-and-microenvironments/948150/63 "2022-05-29T16:52:48Z")

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I had never heard of Miyawaki Forests, so thank you for bringing them to my/our attention.

I’m going to have to see if I can find one local to me. According to Earthwatch

[https://earthwatch.org.uk/component/k2/witney-tiny-forest](https://earthwatch.org.uk/component/k2/witney-tiny-forest)

- they planted the UK’s first Tiny Forest in March 2020, and:

> Since Witney’s Tiny Forest was planted, Earthwatch has gone on to establish another 16 across the UK. We will be running monitoring days at each of them during Spring and Summer 2021 with local school groups and communities.
> 
> By 2023, we aim to have built a network of 150 Tiny Forests in the UK…

All very interesting.

j

ETA - found one!

[https://earthwatch.org.uk/component/k2/tiny-forest-lancing](https://earthwatch.org.uk/component/k2/tiny-forest-lancing)

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**Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/specialized-habitats-and-microenvironments/948150/64 "2022-05-29T19:35:33Z")

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Meanwhile - Hoosier Prairie Update!

Posting on behalf of @Broomstick:

_The prairie as (?has) woken up! Rain and warmer weather means it has greened up._

[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8Ljpgrd4bhbow-r6BVJqi8peEYPlZRIL0VDAyy8kgBmqWJ5SUYn-aYa4dCfr-1jdd_l4amXPaCHUGfLifIEY8mLtQWhwQLvoz-NxUhBoaiPPjqQSyTmrliqHMLIciujn6HL5UGXRZQ=w600-h315-p-k "New item by j") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/WR6WTrqm789dSVk18)

[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nUxUdU9c1hsHnodT3Znx89Z3yjFrMOsCXzVWCiJEzN1Bq7gvxjjyvLYuhztPqgGjOXhXuYDqUEjkJCrKmGqL-86ZXUiqLguDY0u713fXhK8ma0yL999jP09OCzI7IRYHv2gGfVWBsQ=w600-h315-p-k "New item by j") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/VVhsmsBT3HZxd2287)

_This picture shows a variety of plant species, along with the remnants of last year’s (and prior years’) growth._

[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/noHaeTeuUf5wsc7imLwap2OkmSeVEZ-qOWRbdjajBZVun8wUzDnnSPqXlVKGoOQKgdfDgvdRaI8G4p7qE80_FDcGz6VRt-rJJ4nVLfGrxJ9Ko63JaPNziO8cuU040FLHjHW4RV-JHg=w600-h315-p-k "New item by j") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZDokgSGMXzCEns1KA)

[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/M3iG77YgyKdvgdEsM6iek4NYzupY0viF5nn2c-zSj3dbcUGSNFJz_cek8BylCUGod96Mjj-8BqndCrTKM0QtN74x1jpl3yqtsz9y9NzzlkWpJVFzV-TMRkMHgLkEWUtafWULlzKo6Q=w600-h315-p-k "New item by j") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/KB7s1dRMa4NjGU1B8)

+++++++++++++++++++++++

As is ever the case with google photos, the image gets trimmed when I post it. Click on the image for the full picture.

The comparison to be made here is with South Central in post #60. By coincidence, the photos (this post and #60) were all taken on the same day. I have to say that, on the face of it, the Wakehurst (UK) version looks like a reasonable copy.

j

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/specialized-habitats-and-microenvironments/948150/65 "2022-07-21T20:31:32Z")

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Back to the Wakehurst Prairie!

Man, has it been hot round there parts. On Tuesday, the village of Charlwood (about 10 miles from Wakehurst) briefly held the record for the highest temperature ever recorded in the UK (39.1 Celsius)\*. ([The record](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62217282) was then repeatedly broken in various places throughout the day.) My point here is that, if there was ever going to be a best time for realistically reproducing a prairie in a country with cool summers (usually!), that time is now.

From East to West

Atlantic Coast  
[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/iJbKsbTv8UW7Sm5gHr57YhDhYPRWCk-lvk1ud4ntzIZemC6U97Xukhn1v0sggy4Ip7LQGXNI-EkD6L1L7rLY-sXMy0fADcHZbxYcFWUoiDNNkKwRDgCTk1IszwnV4qVJ0jajFqscAg=w600-h315-p-k "New item by j") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/sLJrDtgxiuUTthhN9)

South Central  
[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nEBgxX2Bg4LWbxGMtjktj3FLguG8bfTs1tbI3FbEJJofaYlqjlPiUwxQaxb4vE3g6bOvZ-0HZt8dtYJ780K7gnaLb06GkKRpG3zpCtiDNYjPl9a5Sn0YfXQF5sJhORaTTQ93B2-jXg=w600-h315-p-k "New item by j") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/tFEjxRP3CnCESti59)

Pacific Northwest  
[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_LD18UpuVnkf05xQxV1LBpstKYEMsE4mPM3e8QT8IbdZtCIa8y2MwzxuwGfrq0Tt-BUQXx1NplHPXJq-Xuyi6koNFtJFbpzIRwhbykpIlzWOSsp6mYKxrB-yXQoB-x7IU7GdQt7GCQ=w600-h315-p-k "New item by j") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/WemN7E3wBar2XhwE7)

These photos are not meant to be works of art - I’m trying to offer a view of plant types/species present and highlight diversity between the regions (which, to my untrained eye, seems distinctly lacking for AC vs SC, with both being dominated by the same yellow flowers).

Thoughts, guys?

j

\* - as Mrs T observed, there was a fair chance of the prairie burning this year - by accident.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/specialized-habitats-and-microenvironments/948150/66 "2022-07-21T20:37:12Z")

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As a postscript, we also found this at Wakehurst today - a trial bed for a planned Kyrgyzstan Steppe (!).  
[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/C0Lp1FQTVX_Ysl8GmIeAX4aCxQjxAp4i3wPKAiFe8ERNUIFxqSoXPeEZo-wu4zVJ_Zj-FRoxAZiEUO-MYQ2a9juFr_OVb45k2_14N8WgVNvKVjRuRqko-a_TUof6iXGaYeC5aLDkpg=w600-h315-p-k "New item by j") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/Naz2qRWdq1WsYcB58)

Analyzing the authenticity of _that_ could prove a challenge.

j

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/specialized-habitats-and-microenvironments/948150/67 "2022-07-21T20:44:58Z")

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> South Central

What can I say? It _is_ black-eyed susan season. I’ll see if I can stop by my prairie for a comparison picture. Think you also have some field daisies - the petals aren’t “filly” enough to be daisy fleabane. And grass. Can’t tell the exact species from the picture.

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/specialized-habitats-and-microenvironments/948150/68 "2022-08-04T20:27:59Z")

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By graceful invitation from **Treppenwitz** , I will contribute to this thread, starting now with a copy and paste from another thread, because I am lazy. That is what I wrote over the other thread with the title “Today in Nature I Saw”:

> But what I saw **today** in nature? I will reveal a secret here: My wife and me have just bought a swamp. Really, not kidding, 1.34 acres of bog, pure morass. The correct term for that kind of marsh in German is [Erlenbruchwald](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruchwald#Erlenbr%C3%BCche) (link to German Wikipedia). A moor where [alder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alnus_glutinosa) (German: Erle, thus the name) grow until they fall, because the ground is not solid enough for tall trees. Then they rot. I might start another thread about this place, we are looking forward to getting bitten by mosquitos, falling into ditches, escaping from wild boars, the kind of things you do in fens and mires and muskegs and so on.  
> And what did I see? First, dryness. All the ponds and draining ditches etc. we saw just one month ago, when we bought it, are dry. The nearby lake, the one we should never reach because it is too swampy on the way there, is reportedly 50 cm lower than usual at this time of year. That is a lot when you consider that lakes around here seldom are deeper that 2 - 3 m, if at all. That the surface is dry and the frogs are gone does not mean that you cannot sink 2 to 3 feet all of a sudden. I almost lost my [Wellington Boots](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington_boot)!  
> Second, we saw garbage. We knew that, we went today with several big plastic bags (yeah, I know…) to collect all the plastic, bottles, plastic sheets, shoes, plastic ducks, cans, plastic flower pots, etc. etc. etc. we could gather in a couple of hours. It was a lot. It made little difference. There is a task for the next weeks and months.  
> But that is OK with us, as cleaning the place is about the only activity allowed there. It is an official Biotop, something like a reserve. Proud to have one now. We probably do not know what a mess we are getting into. 😁

And here is a link to the first four pictures, images of the same spots three weeks ago and today, two and two, from slightly different angles.:

[[Album] erlenbruch no. 1 ![](https://i.imgur.com/qwir69Y.jpeg?fb "erlenbruch no. 1") ](https://imgur.com/a/Ljx6khI)

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/specialized-habitats-and-microenvironments/948150/69 "2022-08-04T20:40:55Z")

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And that little exchange reminded me that yesterday I made a trip out to a microenvironment described in post #1 of this thread:

> Violet helleborines are typically found under beech trees on chalk. Years ago I found a colony on …clay, I guess, under conifers and other evergreens. They are confined to an area of just five or six square meters…

There were four spikes, as many as I have seen, I think. One in perfect condition - not the best photo, I’m afraid… (understatement). I was concentrating on getting two spikes in the one shot - bad idea.

[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ABLVV86GIFeZdGcHuHI3jHpiTO3oNG0N1J584a6hnlIyB4mkpxlQzscn_JDTFFUISeG5sHpPKX_4xX8xVTVOlbyfMlPmXBlpvvP8XAo_0cObYo4XH_17yt4=w600-h315-p-k "New item by j") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/hdkVdiuGo11jAEXv5)

As ever, click on the image for the full photo. I’ll try to get back there over the next couple of days and do better.

j

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German is cool! “Erlenbruchwald”, literally “broken alders forest”, sounds so poetic.

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/specialized-habitats-and-microenvironments/948150/71 "2022-08-04T21:11:24Z")

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_Bruch_ means indeed _break_, but it is also the tecnical botanical term for a marsh forest. There seem to be almost as many words for marsh in German as in English (Merrian-Websters lists the following synonyms of marsh: bog, fen, marshland, mire, moor, morass, muskeg, slough (_also_ slew _or_ slue), swamp, swampland, wash, wetland - and anyone of those may cite even more synonyms!).

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Don’t spoil the magic. 😉

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/specialized-habitats-and-microenvironments/948150/73 "2022-08-04T21:16:53Z")

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I just learned that four weeks ago, I could not avoid spreading the newly gained knowledge. Now guess how I came to learn about that fact… 😁  
I have been reading!

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/specialized-habitats-and-microenvironments/948150/74 "2022-08-05T18:35:00Z")

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As promised, better photos from the violet helleborine microenvironment. Two spikes:

[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/E63X_dobjaQh1H2xgtwPFS5qk3Wlespgslg8CibGBgpvPuMYPV_pxVhHdx2TZuqBV6n4UPD6bfcb6Lbr2PtFoqgygOVZGNxgg5x07cVAu5C3hJIrxNXCKGu6wLjaw_BIj8I_rAiBSg=w600-h315-p-k "New item by j") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ihnrawGaGz9P6FD6)

Detail:

[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Spj-XYyfDSYIsv2f5qn6BMSMXVYA_vpEAiXJ7O01_rE_yFRcz2u28pSXCeb4yoMMos4AwaW4E2dDRdiJr7e6zKfQt4w83d1l6MSloU8KttvcB-htw0XfvoOiONjaxTRl-y1hqWTFLw=w600-h315-p-k "New item by j") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/wG8r26XSnXctfpWW8)

Cropped by google photos as ever. Click for the fill pic.

j

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Tiny orchid. It reminds me a bit of a ladyslipper.

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As our scorching (by UK standards) summer rolls on… This is the latest set of photos of the Wakehurst prairies.

Atlantic Coast  
[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0hKnrtjGEjCW-uaoUof8WcQdGGMCiK_Usap9Cw1gbkGlQeA98grVcXtpsLdS7PmhJLr4LYQePuMww1z8qOYmug4cczA-9FesXp928FSYw34f_cf6BhYRsoS-lyEuAz8r4CmNO5p0Vw=w600-h315-p-k "New item by j") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/hD4HzBh3Zsao4zCA9)

South Central  
[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jChS7M7m1cxcRKZWI_EkyjJ8L6RvQh47gIt23nKC-YfAl8-QJqPmSbtq1Y2YK4hJJIi3c2_2rJjB4EhRpOAHET4-VlXuXVLs_CMyUmSH7X6t9X7LJJek5bepdAbMi7Y32oOjwq4d8w=w600-h315-p-k "New item by j") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/nyPcUQftGXUfNqUD6)

Pacific Northwest  
[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/EvwbP4FStFDFLIHBv2K0eVGlu3s8BjD0WInB7bSUz6kBUhqqpfP6r8N-mX4DNhqOVhzR-w7kaGeTkJ2jiq9IF7rb3FXDnRacRj8vTsjnipjbzV9zj9Tye1uTxzX7lbOUblRLL5Pudg=w600-h315-p-k "New item by j") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/9vEsnbRcLChuMzJNA)

To this untrained eye it looks much like the last set except further advanced in dying back, and more of a fire risk.

j

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Back to the drying pond, only some patches of the water lentil seem to survive, most of the surface is turning brownish. Something tried to cross the dry pond and sank quite deep, I guess it was a wild boar (see second picture, the beast seems to be an even-toed ungulate, if I read those muddy prints right). It went right through and did not come back the same way. Imagine if it does not feel nice even for a wild boar!

[[Album] Pond drying up ![](https://i.imgur.com/lhckSyA.jpeg?fb "Pond drying up") ](https://imgur.com/a/lPBwK1c)

I also saw the caterpillar of an elephant hawk moth:

[[Album] elephant hawk moth ![](https://i.imgur.com/JcVyljy.jpeg?fb "elephant hawk moth") ](https://imgur.com/a/vZ3sowx)

It was big! Must be close to pupating, [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deilephila_elpenor) writes they will not emerge until next year. I wish her good luck!

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Speaking about scorching: I wonder if a swamp can burn. The logs that fall and are supposed to rot peacefully are tinder dry:

[[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/D7xE2XV.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/qBGWL5V)

They are turning to dust. Something is eating grubs in them:

[[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/smy5xGH.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/8GuDGRQ)

I also saw two bright red dragonflies, but they were much too fast for me to take a picture.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/specialized-habitats-and-microenvironments/948150/79 "2022-08-14T19:05:34Z")

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As usual, Imgur pictures get cropped on this board, you have to click on the images to see the full image.

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/specialized-habitats-and-microenvironments/948150/80 "2022-08-14T19:08:55Z")

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I’m red-green color blind, so I can have issues with shades of green. The elephant hawk moth photo confused the hell out of me til I realized what was going on. 😉

Bizarre looking critter.

j

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