# Spectators' thread for Mafia: Goontown (no living players, please!) **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [September 28, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135 "2018-09-28T20:14:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/61 "2018-10-13T17:04:32Z")
I notice Scum didn’t kill the player with the highest number of posts. Gee I wonder why? ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/62 "2018-10-14T06:12:33Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > I notice Scum didn’t kill the player with the highest number of posts. Gee I wonder why? Damn, is it really that simple? I guess it could be. [waves] hi all, sorry I voted for or said mean things about you. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/63 "2018-10-14T13:36:26Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > Scum don’t startle. Oh, sometimes they do. I’ve done it whilst scum. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/64 "2018-10-14T13:37:31Z")
Hello, snoe! Mean things are just part of the game, you quisquilous shred of billingsgate! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/65 "2018-10-14T15:00:49Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Oh, sometimes they do. I’ve done it whilst scum. Which game did you startle? You might have ruffled, but I do not recall a startle? ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/66 "2018-10-14T15:02:52Z")
> [@snoe](#): > > Damn, is it really that simple? I guess it could be. [waves] hi all, sorry I voted for or said mean things about you. It can be simple but no one in the game is currently talking about it. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/67 "2018-10-14T20:37:29Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > Which game did you startle? You might have ruffled, but I do not recall a startle? I don’t recall the details. I’m pretty sure I did, though. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/68 "2018-10-15T05:03:31Z")
You have not startled me. However, what would really startle me would be if the current group of players could be startled into noticing snoe and prof pepperwinkle had near top posting numbers. And they got killed. But SNF is still alive. ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/69 "2018-10-15T12:48:59Z")
If the dead dog story turns out to be untrue — that’s … ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/70 "2018-10-16T01:16:11Z")
Y’know, KO has a lot more self-confidence that I had in my first game. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/71 "2018-10-18T02:22:37Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Y’know, KO has a lot more self-confidence that I had in my first game. How about **Stranger**? There was a newbie with confidence too. But anyone who plays a lot gets humbled pretty quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/72 "2018-10-18T12:33:53Z")
I didn’t think Stranger was a new player, just new to us. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/73 "2018-10-18T14:33:47Z")
In post 25 of the game thread he said he had played similar games, which I interpreted as a familiarity with the concept but not the actual game. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/74 "2018-10-18T17:57:15Z")
Duly noted. Maybe one of those was the tabletop game Werewolf, which is pretty close. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/75 "2018-10-18T17:58:23Z")
> [@snoe](#): > > If the dead dog story turns out to be untrue — that’s … I doubt it’s untrue. SNF’s luck hasn’t been good at all this year. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/76 "2018-10-18T20:12:03Z")
So, **Stranger** , any thoughts on **snfaulkner** now? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Hi\_Neighbor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hi_neighbor/32/494_2.png) [@Hi\_Neighbor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hi_Neighbor)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/77 "2018-10-18T20:14:25Z")
Was there a secret thread for scum to post during the night? Can we read that now? Or did they just communicate through PMs? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/78 "2018-10-18T20:16:59Z")
Oh, sure, might as well share that. [https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/miesXTwEhj59](https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/miesXTwEhj59) They didn’t say much, and none of it except the first couple of posts during Day. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/79 "2018-10-18T21:26:40Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > So, **Stranger** , any thoughts on **snfaulkner** now? 😉 I’ll say that I never really strongly thought that **snfaulkner** was scum (or not); I was just staking him out as a tethered goat in hopes of attracting scum to gang on him as an easy elimination (and feel kind of bad about it after finding out his dog had to be put to sleep). I figured that backfired on me and I was lynched by scum plus three, but only one out of two as it was obvious I was going to get lynched. I thought the last minute voting was indicative of scum action but I seem to have been completely wrong, and while I haven’t gone back through and read through the post-Day 1 thread, I didn’t find that any of the chatter was really indicative of who was scum or town. At this point I’m not sure how I’d even try to implement an MC model to try to make a prediiction that would be better than guessing because the scum split their votes on Day 1 and Day 2. I have to admit scum did a pretty good chance—by skill, guile, or luck—of hiding their true identities. I’ve generally had pretty good luck playing _Mafia_-type games in real life (even if I ususally am killed in the first round in elimination games) but I sucked hard at this one. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135/80 "2018-10-18T21:42:20Z")
It’s hard making impartial judgements when you’re the moderator and already know everything, but honestly, I’m surprised **Mahaloth** didn’t swing for his certainty that **Biotop** was Town. I think that really was a genuine Scum mistake, and **Biotop** himself even pointed it out. And then, even with all the talk of the Butterbeer Zone, **Mahaloth** and **Sunny** both just coasted along in it for the whole game. People say that Scum tactics won’t work once Town are wise to them, but that only applies if Town actually act on that wisdom, and they usually don’t. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spectators-thread-for-mafia-goontown-no-living-players-please/822135.md?page=5)