# Speculation that NC Lt. Governor Mark Robinson is in danger of losing state Republican Party financial support **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [August 27, 2024, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316 "2024-08-27T16:02:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/1 "2024-08-27T16:02:32Z")
> [@Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election/1004571/678): > > Same. > > The crazy dude running for Gov in NC is likely to help Harris. We will see. Speculation that said crazy dude – NC Lt. Governor Mark Robinson – is **[in danger of losing state Republican Party financial support](https://www.politicsnc.com/p/will-the-gop-pull-the-plug-on-robinson?r=1aiy5t&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web)**: > Republicans are now deciding when to pull the plug on Robinson’s sinking ship. [A SurveyUSA/High Point University poll that came out late last week shows Stein leading by fourteen points, 48-34.](https://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=6368b805-bffe-45d6-bfff-c3e2cbd2d222) Two other polls released within the past two weeks show Robinson down by ten. The Real Clear Politics average, which ignores one of the polls showing him down by ten, has Robinson trailing by 8.7%. This late in the campaign, those are deficits hard to overcome. > > Republicans are in a bind. They know that supporting Robinson is almost certainly throwing good money after bad, but if Robinson loses by too large a margin, he could sink other GOP candidates below him on the ballot. If they keep spending valuable resources on him, they’re just trying to keep the race from becoming a blowout. They don’t have good options. Wish it was a little firmer, but still thought you and the house would find it interesting. EDIT: To keep it tied into the OP topic – Robinson’s waning support is a likely harbinger of a rise in fervency of support for Kamala Harris. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/2 "2024-08-27T16:05:26Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > Speculation that said crazy dude – NC Lt. Governor Mark Robinson – is **[in danger of losing state Republican Party financial support](https://www.politicsnc.com/p/will-the-gop-pull-the-plug-on-robinson?r=1aiy5t&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web)**: That would be appropriate if it happens. The chair of the NC Democratic Party was on Maddow last night and said not a single elected Republican in North Carolina has failed to support him. (and he’s not just “crazy,” he’s anti-Sematic, and completely unhinged about satanic shit.) ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/3 "2024-08-27T16:09:24Z")
_( @What_Exit : I didn’t mind the breakout … but didn’t think that title was quite ready for prime time 😄 )_ ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/5 "2024-08-27T17:08:01Z")
I’d imagine that NC Republicans will shortly shift their focus to ensuring they maintain their supermajorities in the state legislature, which have been freshly entrenched through their recent gerrymander. It’s been these supermajorities that have let them override every one of Democratic Governor Roy Cooper’s vetoes the last couple of years, including vetoes of a 20-week abortion ban, a ban on gender-affirming medical treatment for youth and eliminating the need for a permit to purchase a handgun. Unfortunately, should Stein prevail, he’s likely to be hamstrung by the same dynamic. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/6 "2024-08-27T17:13:25Z")
Unfortunately for the pubbies, Robinson won’t back off on any of his insanity. Nothing like telling 51% of the electorate that you don’t want them to have the right to vote. Bold strategy, Cotton. What about that state legislator who flipped parties last year to create the super majority? Are her voters going to hold her accountable? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/7 "2024-08-27T18:00:02Z")
Michelle Morrow, the Republican candidate for state superintendent of public instruction, is if possible even worse than Mark Robinson. She’s never been involved in NC public schools, she homeschooled her kids, she hasn’t run any organization larger than a nuclear family; but she has Tweeted about her desire to execute Obama on live-streamed pay-per-view, and added her support for executing traitors–among which group she includes all her political adversaries. As an NC public school teacher, I really need people to see her and Robinson as a package deal, and to reject them both. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/8 "2024-08-27T18:00:29Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > What about that state legislator who flipped parties last year to create the super majority? Are her voters going to hold her accountable? She was gerrymandered into a safely red district, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/9 "2024-08-27T18:08:57Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > What about that state legislator who flipped parties last year to create the super majority? Are her voters going to hold her accountable? Tricia Cotham. Republicans gerrymandered her a nice new R-leaning district – her district now leans Republican by a 52% to 45% margin. Honestly, I think she got kind of hosed selling her soul for a solid-but-not-overwhelming partisan advantage. That’s easily the kind of margin where – if the races higher up on the ticket flame out – she could find herself in trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/10 "2024-08-27T23:07:01Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > As an NC public school teacher, I really need people to see her and Robinson as a package deal, and to reject them both. Add Trump to the mix. I’m sure he’s supporting Robinson, so he should own the extra crazy too. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/11 "2024-08-28T00:01:30Z")
Any polling on the Lt. Governor’s race? ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/12 "2024-08-28T00:15:49Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > Any polling on the Lt. Governor’s race ? Robinson is currently running for governor against Democrat Josh Stein. **[Here is the most recent polling per 538](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/governor/2024/north-carolina/)**, running August 14-27 (through today). Average them all out, and Stein’s up about 10 points (ranging from +6 to +14). ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/13 "2024-08-28T00:22:44Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Add Trump to the mix. I’m sure he’s supporting Robinson, so he should own the extra crazy too. > [@](#): > > Former President Donald Trump, who endorsed Robinson in March, has called him “Martin Luther King on steroids.” Um. > **[North Carolina governor poll shows Josh Stein and Mark Robinson's chances](https://www.newsweek.com/north-carolina-governor-poll-josh-stein-mark-robinson-1944764)** > > A new poll shows Stein, the state's Democratic attorney general, leading Robinson, the state's lieutenant governor, in the governor's race. An eight point lead in that latest poll doesn’t seem like a sure thing for Stein. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/14 "2024-08-28T00:45:04Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > > [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > > > Any polling on the Lt. Governor’s race ? > > Robinson is currently running for governor against Democrat Josh Stein. **[Here is the most recent polling per 538](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/governor/2024/north-carolina/)**, running August 14-27 (through today). Average them all out, and Stein’s up about 10 points (ranging from +6 to +14). I was asking about the Lt. Governor’s race. NC has that goofy rule that the Lt. Governor becomes acting governor any time the Governor leaves the state. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/15 "2024-08-28T01:30:01Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > I was asking about the Lt. Governor’s race. NC has that goofy rule that the Lt. Governor becomes acting governor any time the Governor leaves the state. I’ve not been able to find any polling on the Lieutenant Governor’s race. **[Ballotpedia](https://ballotpedia.org/North_Carolina_lieutenant_gubernatorial_election,_2024)** shows that Democrat Rachel Hunt’s war chest is over twice as large as Republican candidate Hal Weatherman’s. But that’s about all I can see. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2024, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/16 "2024-09-05T10:37:23Z")
In new Mark Robinson news, fresh scandals have popped up. Let’s see if they stick around or fade away. I don’t think people will really care about the porn one, but Girl Scouts being robbed? > **[Girl Scouts Win Lawsuit Against Wife of North Carolina GOP Candidate Mark...](https://polinews.org/girl-scover-thousands-in-unpaid-funds/)** > >   ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2024, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/17 "2024-09-05T11:32:44Z")
Best quote, “This went on for several years, Money said. Robinson came in after his shifts at pizza restaurants and hung out for hours. He said Robinson’s tastes were fairly standard for a straight man. Though he added, “I know he might have problems with gay people, but I don’t think he has problems with lesbians.”” > **[Ex-Porn Shop Staff Say Mark Robinson Was A Regular. He Denies It.](https://www.theassemblync.com/politics/nc-election-governor-republican-mark-robinson-porn-allegations/)** > > Six men say gubernatorial candidate Mark Robinson frequented Greensboro's video-porn shops in the ’90s and early 2000s, which he denies. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/18 "2024-09-06T15:55:48Z")
There’s also this tidbit, which is about the least surprising thing ever: > Money had more vivid recollections. He described the future lieutenant governor as funny. > > “I mean, like, _hilarious_,” he said. “He would have like five or six of us up front dying laughing at 4 in the morning. Almost like a standup routine—not copying Andrew Dice Clay, but almost like doing an Andrew Dice Clay comedy bit.” > > Gents’ backroom catered to the gay community, and Robinson’s jokes often targeted the store’s gay clientele, Money added. “I hate to admit this, but he was very homophobic,” Money said. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/19 "2024-09-19T17:17:53Z")
Something major is about to break. [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/just-in-trump-pick-for-north-carolina-governor-under-pressure-to-withdraw-over-looming-bombshell-regarding-activity-on-adult-websites/ar-AA1qR5Lx](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/just-in-trump-pick-for-north-carolina-governor-under-pressure-to-withdraw-over-looming-bombshell-regarding-activity-on-adult-websites/ar-AA1qR5Lx) Edit to add a better link: > **[Robinson under pressure to withdraw from gubernatorial race](https://www.carolinajournal.com/robinson-under-pressure-to-withdraw-from-gubernatorial-race/)** > > North Carolina Republicans are bracing Thursday morning as word spreads about a damning news story looming regarding Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson. Sources with direct knowledge have spoken with Carolina Journal on the condition of anonymity and said that... > [@](#): > > North Carolina Republicans are bracing Thursday morning as word spreads about a damning news story looming regarding Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson. > > Sources with direct knowledge have spoken with Carolina Journal on the condition of anonymity and said that Robinson is under pressure from staff and members of the Trump campaign to withdraw from the governor’s race due to the nature of the story, which they say involves activity on adult websites in 2000s. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/20 "2024-09-19T18:19:38Z")
Super excited to hear what it is. However, the law apparently says the Republican party can nominate someone to replace him if he withdraws, and all his votes go to the new nominee. On the one hand, we do have some sane Republicans in the state. Our treasurer, Dave Folwell, is a sane Republican; and although he gets up my nose and is wrong about everything, it’s the “normal parameters” kind of wrong. If they replaced Robinson with Folwell (who lost his bid for the nomination originally), that would be a salutary turn toward sanity for the state party. On the other hand, Stein is ahead by double digits in the race for governor, and Folwell would be significantly worse than Stein, and I’d feel a little robbed if suddenly Folwell swapped in. I might understand a little more of how Trump feels about the Biden-Harris switcheroo. On the third hand, if it comes out that Robinson is (as Dan Savage persuasively speculates) having sex with men, or was recently (Savage suggests that no guy went into the private film booths of porn shops in the nineties more than once, unless he was there for the holes between the stalls), or even if it comes out that Robinson did something wrong, it’s hard for me to imagine a scenario where a significant number of voters know that he withdrew, and also know that their vote goes to a different Republican, and also are enthusiastic about casting their vote for Robinson in an effort to elect someone else. It doesn’t seem like the shot is much less long. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316/21 "2024-09-19T18:22:26Z")
His campaign manager is saying it’s because he called himself a black Nazi and said unspecified racist things against Jews on a message board in 2009. Given the current climate I’m skeptical that’s it. Honestly, getting blown by random men in a glory hole I’m not sure would do it either. Hypocritically play the homophobia card and you’re good. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speculation-that-nc-lt-governor-mark-robinson-is-in-danger-of-losing-state-republican-party-financial-support/1006316.md?page=2)