# Speeding on toll roads

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speeding-on-toll-roads/955132>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 29, 2021, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speeding-on-toll-roads/955132 "2021-11-29T13:22:07Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speeding-on-toll-roads/955132/1 "2021-11-29T13:22:07Z")

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If you are driving on a toll road - one on which you need a transponder, or where your license plate is scanned - can you be ticketed (for speeding) for passing two checkpoints/entrances/exits (or wherever you are scanned) below a certain minimum time?

Back in the days of a divided Germany, there were three(?) highways that led from West Germany to Berlin, through East German territory. The East Germans would determine your travel time (you were supposed to drive the 100 mi/160 km non-stop) to be sure that you weren’t making any stops (presumably for something illegal). If your travel time was too long - you could be subject to  
questioning in a little more detail at the other end.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speeding-on-toll-roads/955132/2 "2021-11-29T13:35:29Z")

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There was a recent thread on this. IIRC, the answer is that it’s definitely possible to implement, but currently few places have put into place anything like it for legislative or political reasons.

ETA - here’s the previous thread

> [@Can you be ticketed for inferred speeding?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-be-ticketed-for-inferred-speeding/952196):
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> Let’s say I’m driving on a stretch of some limited access highway (one with no on or off ramps). Let’s say the speed limit is 70 mph and the stretch of road is thirty-five miles long. There are cameras at the on and off ramps. One camera records me entering the highway at 1:15 pm. Another camera records me exiting the highway at 1:35 pm. (The clocks are synchronized.) Now if I drove thirty-five miles at a speed of seventy miles per hour, it would take me thirty minutes. I drove this distance i…

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speeding-on-toll-roads/955132/3 "2021-11-29T13:44:19Z")

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You could, yes, but it is not allowed in Illinois. In fact, speeding is loosely enforced on our toll roads because they want to encourage people to use them. I’ve been commuting to work via I-294 for several years. I set my cruise control for 85 MPH, and I have never had a problem with the police. Going home, of course, traffic is significantly heavier, so I drive slower.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speeding-on-toll-roads/955132/4 "2021-11-29T14:02:44Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> In fact, speeding is loosely enforced on our toll roads because they want to encourage people to use them.

I wonder how much is police don’t want to do that as it would catch cops speeding during off duty driving/ hinder their ability to drive freely off duty.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speeding-on-toll-roads/955132/5 "2021-11-29T14:10:27Z")

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Off duty cops pulled over for speeding are generally not ticketed. That’s how it goes where I was raised, anyway.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speeding-on-toll-roads/955132/6 "2021-11-29T14:29:59Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Off duty cops pulled over for speeding are generally not ticketed.

aka Do as I say, not as I do. Good old boy syndrome.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speeding-on-toll-roads/955132/7 "2021-11-29T14:33:16Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> I wonder how much is police don’t want to do that as it would catch cops speeding during off duty driving/ hinder their ability to drive freely off duty.

Cops don’t want to end up pulling over another cop, therefore they don’t pull over anyone?  
I don’t think you have to wonder about that.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speeding-on-toll-roads/955132/8 "2021-11-29T15:34:13Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Cops don’t want to end up pulling over another cop, therefore they don’t pull over anyone?  
> I don’t think you have to wonder about that.

Maybe a little wondering would help. Cops pulling over other cops may result in a pull over but rarely result in a ticket for them. A electronic ticket system would take ‘professional courtesy’ out of the equation and cops would be ticketed just like anyone else, which they would not want.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speeding-on-toll-roads/955132/9 "2021-11-29T15:38:50Z")

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Oh, I see. You were looking at the tickets being issued due to automation. My bad.  
But I still don’t see the ticketing of off duty cops to be a factor.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speeding-on-toll-roads/955132/10 "2021-11-29T15:47:04Z")

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I think every toll road in the country that adopted the ticket system (or later, electronic tolling) was the subject of a rumor that the tickets were used for speed enforcement, complete with stories about how it definitely 100% happened to a friend’s cousin’s hairdresser’s brother, but I don’t think any of them ever actually _did_ it.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speeding-on-toll-roads/955132/11 "2021-11-29T22:45:49Z")

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The last time I drove on a toll road, road construction limited 2/3 of our tolled trip to one lane at 40 mph. I was not on a tight schedule, but I wondered how all those truck drivers felt about **paying** to drive so slowly.

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/speeding-on-toll-roads/955132/12 "2021-11-30T05:33:53Z")

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Last time I drove on a toll road was back in the aughts, going to Kansas City from Topeka. The cops would pass you if you were going under 90mph. If I remember correctly, the speed limit was 70mph at the time. Never got a speeding ticket for getting from one gate to another to fast. They charged based on miles anyway. The toll ticket had your entry gate, no time stamp

ETA, oops, you meant an automated toll booth, didn’t read the op thoroughly enough
