Spelling: Why does it bother some people?

I am baffled at folks who think using proper spelling, grammar, spacing and punctuation is “anal”. The rules are there for a reason, and that reason is so there is communication!

A perfect example of some really bad grammar is a sign posted above the microwave in our breakroom at work:

Please do not leave popcorn unattended. Or use the popcorn button.

I have been studying that sign for months, and I have yet to figure out if I am allowed, or not allowed, to use the popcorn button.

That is why we are so “anal” about proper writing skills.

Plus what all the previous posters said, too.

I am so “anal” about my writing skills that I avoid chatrooms altogether, because it is impossible to get a coherent, correct thought in on time and not resort to the “u ppl” crap.

I really hate abbreviations and lack of capitalization/punctuation because it’s something that sticks out a lot when I read (probably the result of the two years I spent copyediting my high school paper).

The thing is, while I will ignore punctuation and capitalization in instant messaging in order to talk quickly, there’s no reason not to be careful here - you can proofread your post as many times as you need to before posting, so why not do it, and give a good impression, rather than appear lazy?

As for grammar, your/you’re, their/they’re, etc. make me want to scream. It’s not that hard: is it your or you are?

People are so closed minded about this subject. and no during this response I donot care if i spell or puncuate properly…i think so far that the opinion of the room is that ur shit doesnt stink if u can spell and if u cant then u arent allowed to think or converse with others, You people make me sick. I cannot type that well because i have carpal tunnel syndrome and it is hard for me to get it right. But nooooo that doent matter, i do fine everywhere else that i post just not here.

FYI I am not lazy!!!

Oh, quit the melodrama. Plenty of people have said that they don’t have a problem with accidental typos, or with people who have very good reasons for being less than clear in their typing. If you’re going to label others as ‘closed minded’ at least read what they’ve said, or else you run the risk of being a hypocrite.

The point is that people who can but don’t make an effort aren’t going to be taken as seriously as those who do. If carpal tunnel syndrome makes it difficult for you to type then it’d be insensitive for those who know you to criticise. If, on the other hand you genuinely “donot care if i spell or puncuate properly” then you’ll find people don’t care to read your posts.

I guess you weren’t listening . . . (oops, I almost left an unfinished ellipse):

:wink:
Love,
The Grammar Police

Spelling doesn’t bother me. I almost always don’t even notice spelling errors (if someone asks me the correct spelling I can always give it, but my brain just fills in the details when I see something incorrect, unless it’s really glaringly wrong). Acronyms don’t bother me, though if they’re severely overused. I even use them sometimes.

‘Netspeak’ though… u, pls, r, ne1, and random crap like that really pisses me off. Two reasons:

  1. It’s pointless. It does NOT really save much time to write it on a computer (in text messages I don’t mind so much, but I would never ever use it). If it does, learn to type.

  2. Association. The large majority of people I’ve communicated with who use these were unbelievably stupid and/or irritating. This certainly isn’t the case with all people who use them, but the mental association is still there.

Lorinada: Really? I’ve never had trouble with chatrooms and having to resort to the shorthands. Now that I’ve found more sane chatrooms (which I hardly go to any more, but that’s beside the point entirely) I don’t even see that many people using them. I think the key is to be able to type quickly and chat to others who can as well.

I agree with you, except that I always notice the spelling errors, though in most cases I’m not bothered by them. I myself have difficulties spelling, and nearly every word I can spell correctly is the result of conscious memorization (Phonics didn’t click in my brain, at all.) I think that my own shortcomings in the area of spelling make me at least a little more forgiving about others’ misspellings.

On the other hand, it also annoys me more that people would deliberately misspell a word. Why would anyone want to look illiterate? :wally

You asked a question and people have been good enough to answer it honestly.

I’m sorry you have CTS, but I also feel sorry for you for posting such a whiny, self-pitying reply because you didn’t like the answers you got. As several people have already mentioned, there are good reasons for unorthodox posting styles, and a medical condition would be one of those, but how many people here knew you had a medical condition? Without that knowledge, people are left to guess that maybe you’re just some teenage stoner who can’t be bothered to type properly.

If you really don’t care what people think about the appearance of your posts why are you bleating about the response you’ve had? If you do care enough to post insults, then maybe it would help to explain why you type the way you do. Remember that many people will not have read this thread at all, so perhaps you could come up with a explanatory signature an use that in future?

But thanks for saving some of my future time - I’ll know not to reply to any of your questions again.

For those of you who weren’t around or perhaps just forgot, it is Gaudere’s Law which postulates that those who point out errors in previous posts are condemned to commit their own errors while pointing.

That said, I agree with the good, decent folk who at least attempt to formulate a coherent sentence.

I expectorate on the others.

I have no problem with spelling or grammar mistakes. People make mistakes. On a mesage borad or email, the time may not be taken to profread.

When it is deliberate it comes off as being vulgar. I can not stand seeing words lik “u”, “ppl”, “xtreme” or “luv”. It is not that hard to spell those words correctly. Nor does it take that much extra time to type them out. If you really can not spare the faction of a second, you shouldn’t have time to waste posting on message boards.

I’ve read this thread twice over, and I can say with deadset certainty that spelling mistakes don’t bother me that much if it is an obvious typo. (goodness knows I’ve made more than my share of those) If the person doesn’t know how to spell the word, I can understand where looking it up in the dictionary might be hard. But if someone makes the same mistake on a consistent basis, then it starts to bother me. (like “eatting” for “eating”, “aweful” for “awful”, “writting” for “writing”, etc. … GAH!)

I try to keep good spelling and grammar to the best of my ability on here, ICQ, or whatever computer application I am using , but there are times when I don’t know how to spell a word. In such a case, I’d either go to my dictionary or use a different word altogether. It’s not that hard to remember to capitalize things and remember the basic rules of spelling, grammar, punctuation, etc. I’m sure that I’ve tripped up many times in the past and will in the future, but seriously!

As for “chat abbreviations” such as “u”, “ppl”, and the others I’ve come across, I don’t use them much, if at all. My brain just supplies me with the correct spelling of the word I’m using, and my fingers just type it out.

What do I think of people who use chat abbreviations? Well, to save time occasionally, it’s all right, but if you use them on a very consistent basis, that will get to bothering me pretty quick. You wouldn’t use those in a business presentation, would you? I hope not! (I used to know someone on ICQ who used those abbreviations a lot; nothing too intrinsically wrong with that, but his spelling was also horrendous!)

Generally (whether that be on ICQ, message boards, email, notes to friends, etc.), I use all the rules of spelling, grammar, etc. as I was taught. It’s stood me in good stead so far. This is not to say that I am against using abbreviations and such to save time now and again, but most of the time, I’d say you have chances to preview, proofread, edit (not applicable to this message board, but to some others that I frequent), correct things as many times as needed, and NOT use abbreviations unless absolutely necessary! It doesn’t take THAT much more time and energy to type “anyone” than it does to type “ne1”, does it?

So typing out everything you want to say instead of using shorthand might take a few extra seconds or so: believe me, it’s appreciated! If you have some kind of medical condition that prevents you from doing so in the interests of economy and all that, then say so at the outset! We’ll understand, really!

(I’m checking carefully to see if there are any violations of Gaudere’s law first before I submit this)

Really? I don’t find it more readable at all. The two-space rule is a hold-over from the typerwriter mono-spaced fonts days. (Courier, for example.) In proportional fonts (like the one you’re reading now, where each letter takes up a different amount of space,) you are not supposed to type two spaces after each period.

I don’t mind the occasional typo and spelling error. I don’t spell-check my posts, and the weird way I type makes for plenty of typos (it’s why you constantly see “ign” instead of “ing” in my posts.)

However, “netspeak” bugs the crap out of me. “u”, “hugz”, “ppl”, and - ugh - “lol” drive me batty. It’s the equivalent of baby talk to me. And frankly, as bad as it may be to do so, I inevitably find myself thinking far less of those who employ it.

In this forum you only have your ideas and how they’re presented to go on. Why you would choose to present yourself as an illiterate 12 year old is beyond me. But if you do so, don’t be surprised if people don’t take you seriously.

[non-OP issue; in fact OP surely doesn’t give a poop]

I had no idea. I’m still sticking with two spaces after the period anyway. I doubt anyone will mind.

[/non-OP issue]

I agree with AlaItalia regarding the two spaces after the period. While I know that I’m not supposed to do it, and that I know it’s a holdover from my typewriter days, I like the way it looks with that slightly larger gap between the end of one sentence and the start of the next.

Regarding the OP: I hate poor spelling, shortened words, improper grammar, inadequate punctuation, homonym errors, and no capitalization. I’m more tolerant with Instant Messenger communications, but intolerant when these errors appear in email and message boards (either deliberately or by accident). As has been pointed out, it reflects on the writer.

Having said that, my own spelling is sometimes flawed, which drives me nuts. I don’t bother to write everything in Word and do a spell-check before posting, so errors sometimes slip past me even with Preview (it is notoriously difficult to successfully proof-read one’s own work).

Same here. I learned to type Junior Year in high school (81/82) on an IBM Selectric, so there’s no way I can stop typing those two spaces after a sentence. :slight_smile:

Sheri

To be fair, ellipses can be used to add tone or inflection to a sentence in a text-based discussion.

Hmm…

Hmm.

See the difference? In a medium where body language, tone, and inflection are entirely absent, little things like that become very important.

I’m a writer, among other things, and misspellings/punctuation errors bother me because I feel a strong urge to edit them. Not being able to do so makes me cranky.

Net abbreviations and the like bother me because, as others have said, they make messages harder to read and understand.

Nonny