# Spencer Tracy and John F. Kennedy?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spencer-tracy-and-john-f-kennedy/807235>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 22, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spencer-tracy-and-john-f-kennedy/807235 "2018-01-22T20:06:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spencer-tracy-and-john-f-kennedy/807235/21 "2018-01-23T22:37:57Z")

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I think he looks like George Skakel, but since he was dead at the time, maybe one of his brothers?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spencer-tracy-and-john-f-kennedy/807235/22 "2018-01-24T00:06:09Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> No, it was a lame _attempt_ at humor.

Ok. Mission accomplished. 🙂

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**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spencer-tracy-and-john-f-kennedy/807235/23 "2018-01-24T00:34:27Z")

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It’s hard to make out much from that photo, but could it be Jackie’s step-father, Hugh D. Auchincloss?

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spencer-tracy-and-john-f-kennedy/807235/24 "2018-01-24T02:46:17Z")

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He’s on the stairs rehearsing for the grassy knoll.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spencer-tracy-and-john-f-kennedy/807235/25 "2018-01-24T05:36:46Z")

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> [@puddleglum](#):
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> It looks kind of like Archibald Cox who was part of JFK’s speech writing team and would go on to become solicitor general. [Here](https://www.scoopnest.com/user/BeschlossDC/780430688709386241)is a photo with Jackie. In the election night photo he has his eyes close.

No, the guy on the stairs is definitely older than Cox, has a heavier build, and looks very little like him.

> [@bibliophage](#):
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> It’s hard to make out much from that photo, but could it be Jackie’s step-father, Hugh D. Auchincloss?

No, I don’t think it’s him, either: [http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/18/21/29C18C8A00000578-3130135-image-a-47\_1434661160006.jpg](http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/18/21/29C18C8A00000578-3130135-image-a-47_1434661160006.jpg)

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**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spencer-tracy-and-john-f-kennedy/807235/26 "2018-01-24T06:20:56Z")

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I found a [better quality image](https://www.gettyimages.com/album/jacques-lowe-inside-kennedys-camelot-from-the-campaign-trail--It-sB2dJwEaZxWr5dneKgg#senator-john-f-kennedy-and-family-members-friends-and-aides-watch-in-picture-id873929232), but I still don’t know who he is.

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spencer-tracy-and-john-f-kennedy/807235/27 "2018-01-25T05:32:14Z")

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Hmm, no, it’s not Spencer Tracy–he looked much more aged by late 1960 (and his head was less rectangular, more square). I think the unknown gentleman is an aide of some kind–the image on Getty identifies literally everyone else in the pic but him.

For the record, going from left to right: Bill Walton (journalist, painter & friend of Pres/Mrs Kennedy), Pierre Salinger, Ethel Kennedy, RFK, JFK, RFK’s secretary Angie Novello, and William F Haddad (Special Assistant to RFK at the time–and I believe of this group, the only one who’s still living as of January 25, 2018, so hypothetically you could try to get him to answer! 😃 ).

(The man in question is only referred to as “Unidentified man on stairs.” FWIW, he does _look_ like a Kennedy, but if he were, he’d surely have been named by photographer Jacques Lowe.)

I noticed that a copy’s in the NY Historical Society museum. If I remember correctly, there’s actually a Doper who knows a lot about history and might have some info… **stuyguy** , maybe?

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