# Spend 20 years in Norwegian prison or 2 years in Turkish prison?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 25, 2012, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spend-20-years-in-norwegian-prison-or-2-years-in-turkish-prison/632621 "2012-08-25T17:24:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Phedre\_no\_Delaunay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/839c29/32.png) [@Phedre\_no\_Delaunay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phedre_no_Delaunay)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2012, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spend-20-years-in-norwegian-prison-or-2-years-in-turkish-prison/632621/41 "2012-08-29T03:24:07Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> No offense, but you people are nuts!

Did you read how nice they are? I could lounge around reading and messing around on the internet all day. If I tire of that I can take college classes or watch tv or dine on those gourmet meals. Take a walk around the lake or go fishing. Yeah, I think I could manage to make it through that hell.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spend-20-years-in-norwegian-prison-or-2-years-in-turkish-prison/632621/42 "2012-08-29T03:50:45Z")

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I’m guessing all of us are not mass murderers like Breivik. So I don’t know what the rest of the inmates get, but he has a computer but no internet.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2012, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spend-20-years-in-norwegian-prison-or-2-years-in-turkish-prison/632621/43 "2012-08-29T04:20:46Z")

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As I suspected, it’s about 50/50. Turkey itself at this point probably won’t torture you for no reason like some other middle eastern countries might (only if the CIA asks them to). I took it as more a general, “long hippy confinement” vs " short sociopath confinement" question, and picked the Norway option guessing that it would result is less torture.

20 years is a long time, but 2 years is plenty enough for a sadistic jailer to seriously fuck you up. I’ve daydreamed about inflicting pain, but I have nothing on professionals. Simple time can not compete with literal hell.

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**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2012, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spend-20-years-in-norwegian-prison-or-2-years-in-turkish-prison/632621/44 "2012-08-29T08:47:36Z")

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> [@pravnik](#):
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> [Welcome to the world’s nicest prison](http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/24/world/europe/norway-prison-bastoy-nicest/index.html)

That’s neither a high security prison nor a normal prison. Bastøy is the last stage of a rehabilitation track, and any inmate allowed to spend time there is at the tail end of their sentence with a good record.

The rationale behind the conditions at Bastøy is that it’s supposed to be the last step in rehabilitating criminals and should thus be as close to normal life as possible. According to the authorities, it seems to work…

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spend-20-years-in-norwegian-prison-or-2-years-in-turkish-prison/632621/45 "2012-08-29T17:10:32Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Simple time can not compete with literal hell.

But when they both seem hellish, the shorter time, I say!

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