# Spider-Man 3 villain cast, but who will he play? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 22, 2005, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736 "2005-03-22T17:18:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/21 "2005-03-22T19:59:54Z")
> [@Exgineer](#): > > Is it just me, or are they doing this ass-backwards? > > Surely it makes more sense to find an actor who fits an established part than the other way around. It’s just you. 😛 I mean, I’m sure the filmmakers cast Church to play a specific role. They know the part he’s going to play, they just haven’t told us yet. I don’t think they’d just cast an actor and then decide later which character he should be. ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/22 "2005-03-22T20:02:35Z")
> [@Exgineer](#): > > Is it just me, or are they doing this ass-backwards? > > Surely it makes more sense to find an actor who fits an established part than the other way around. My guess is that’s what they did, but they want to keep the fans in suspense by not naming the villian. Another vote for Mysterio here, but I could be persuaded on Sandman. It would be interesting to introduce the black costume near the end of the movie, maybe being a key strenght booster in a battle with whoever the villiain is this time around. I wonder if Toby could do a dark Peter Parker? ---
**Author:** ![LindyHopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@LindyHopper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LindyHopper)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/23 "2005-03-22T20:27:29Z")
> [@Stuffy](#): > > It would be interesting to introduce the black costume near the end of the movie, maybe being a key strenght booster in a battle with whoever the villiain is this time around. I wonder if Toby could do a dark Peter Parker? You mean so they could use Venom in Spider-Man 4? That’s a thought… And I had _totally_ forgotten about the Beetle. That suit of his _was_ pretty cool…but I don’t really remember his personality. Can anyone refresh my memory? ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/24 "2005-03-22T20:43:01Z")
The Beetle is now a super hero, having joined the Thunderbolts. He is also a Balti-moron, like me. [http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/beetle.html](http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/beetle.html) ---
**Author:** ![Jervoise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@Jervoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jervoise)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/25 "2005-03-22T21:02:00Z")
> [@Scott\_plaid](#): > > The Kangaroo, hmmm… > > He was simply a Austrian boxer who jumped around a lot, and wore street clothes, albeit 1970s street clothes. He could make a perfect underling, or a good cameo. He doesn’t even need to be named, since cameos need no name, for they are good. Besides, I would want to face of agtns an austrian kickboxer. The Kangaroo was Austrian? How ever did the lederhosen fit… ? ---
**Author:** ![JDeMobray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@JDeMobray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JDeMobray)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/26 "2005-03-22T21:08:40Z")
> [@Scott\_plaid](#): > > The Beetle is now a super hero, having joined the Thunderbolts. He is also a Balti-moron, like me. > > [Not Found [in Fail] @ SpiderFan.org](http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/beetle.html) He’s also black now, but I don’t thin the movies should be held to the current continuity of the comic books. (Except perhaps for costuming; I would be livid if they produced a Captain America movie featuring the Taskmaster back in his old, ugly costume.) ---
**Author:** ![Kaspar\_Hauser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b3f665/32.png) [@Kaspar\_Hauser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaspar_Hauser)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/27 "2005-03-22T21:18:24Z")
Hammerhead! ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/28 "2005-03-22T21:42:07Z")
> [@Jervoise](#): > > The Kangaroo was Austrian? How ever did the lederhosen fit… ? I meant to say Australia, but now that I think about it, a lot of people don’t like Schwarzenegger. Having him as a villain, easily trounced by Spiderman, would let out a lot of tension, and as a way of showing a routine life. (Wake up, brush teeth, defeat lame villain, try not to be killed by major villain, pick up eggs.) Besides, the link below seems to show someone who looks like Schwarzenegger wearing a furry Sonny Bono vest. [http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/kangaroooliver.htm](http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/kangaroooliver.htm) ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/29 "2005-03-22T21:49:30Z")
```auto http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002006/ ``` I believe this would be his record. > [@](#): > > Electro has a stupid costume Only Spidey really has his classic costume anyway. Heck, Doc Oc didn’t even wear one at all, not counting the arms. ---
**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/30 "2005-03-22T22:47:57Z")
I nominate:[ul][li]Rodney Rodent, [/li][li]Shoo Shoo Fly, [/li][li]Professor Shaggy Dog, [/li][li]The Black Cat, [/li][li]Harry Gorilla, [/li][li]Iron Shark, [/li][li]Professor Noodle Stroodle, or[/li]Froggy[/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/31 "2005-03-22T22:57:31Z")
But seriouly, I can’t see [Thomas Haden Church](http://imdb.com/name/nm0002006/bio) as any of the villians in the firm, unless he is hidden behind make-up for the mutated forms of Man-Wolf, or the Lizard, and he isn’t barrel chested enought for Venom. Is it possible that something that [John Jameson](http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/images/manwolf/mw01.jpg) brought back from the moon contains a symbonite which attaches to Church, skipping Venom, and creating [Carnage](http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/carnage.html)? ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/32 "2005-03-22T23:18:42Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > The Trapster - Oooh! He can shoot glue! Big deal. Abut as effective as a five-year old with a tube of Elmer’s. You don’t mean Paste Pot Pete? BWAH-HA-HA! Hoo boy. I guess he would be a good mechanism for getting a Human Torch cameo in the film… How come nobody’s mention The Chameleon? He was Spider-Man’s first super-villian opponent, wasn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/33 "2005-03-22T23:26:44Z")
The Jackal. It’ll lead into the clone storyline, which will last for ten movies. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/34 "2005-03-22T23:40:36Z")
> [@Scott\_plaid](#): > > I meant to say Australia, but now that I think about it, a lot of people don’t like Schwarzenegger. Having him as a villain, easily trounced by Spiderman, would let out a lot of tension, and as a way of showing a routine life. (Wake up, brush teeth, defeat lame villain, try not to be killed by major villain, pick up eggs.) Sure, but then you’d get all the mouth-foaming conservatives screaming “liberal media bias” before the first reel is over. 😉 > [@Phase42](#): > > > [@bouv](#): > > > > The Trapster - Oooh! He can shoot glue! Big deal. Abut as effective as a five-year old with a tube of Elmer’s. > > You don’t mean Paste Pot Pete? BWAH-HA-HA! Hoo boy. \ For an amusing bit of Trapster-abuse, check out the **Astro City: Confession** TPB. The first issue/chapter has a Paste-Pot-Pete-clone (“Glue-Gun”) crashing a party full of super-heroes… and gets taken out by none of them. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/35 "2005-03-22T23:45:44Z")
My bet is that Church will be the Vulture, and he’ll be mainly comic relief. A second villian will be the real baddie. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/36 "2005-03-23T00:05:04Z")
Ooo! Ooo! Arcade! ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/37 "2005-03-23T00:53:26Z")
One being the “Black Cat”. [http://www.countingdown.com/movies/2756481/news?item\_id=3678726](http://www.countingdown.com/movies/2756481/news?item_id=3678726) ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/38 "2005-03-23T00:54:48Z")
Venom anyone? [http://www.countingdown.com/movies/2756481/news?item\_id=3643013](http://www.countingdown.com/movies/2756481/news?item_id=3643013) ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/39 "2005-03-23T00:58:29Z")
The more I think about it, the more I like the Hobgoblin. I’ll spoiler box it in case anybody hasn’t seen Spider Man 2 yet. We know that Harry has access to the goblin gear, hates Spider Man, but likes Peter. Easiest way to go would be to hire a professional and give him the gear to kill the spider. Harry stays shiny clean and Spider Man dies. Plus Haden-Church seems right for the part. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736/40 "2005-03-23T01:03:18Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > Venom anyone? > > [http://www.countingdown.com/movies/2756481/news?item\_id=3643013](http://www.countingdown.com/movies/2756481/news?item_id=3643013) I would love to see Venom as the villain. He is IMHO the best Spider Man villain. I just don’t know how they could do it well in one movie. He deserves backstory and a chance to build the psychotic hatred of Spider Man. Yeah, you could do that with Jonah’s son, but going from uber good boy astronaut to raving psychotic over a break up wouldn’t sit right with me. It also doesn’t give us the symbiote’s hatred to add in. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-3-villain-cast-but-who-will-he-play/295736.md?page=3)