# Spider-Man 4 Canceled(basically)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 11, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-4-canceled-basically/524575 "2010-01-11T23:36:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-4-canceled-basically/524575/21 "2010-01-12T17:10:41Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> The three most recent movies were abysmal pieces of garbage.

I liked Spider-Man 2, though.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-4-canceled-basically/524575/22 "2010-01-12T17:17:21Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Q](#):
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> Why do I get the feeling this is going to be a failure of Nipples-On -The- Spider-Suit proportions?

So, what are you saying? That they’ll get Joel Schumacher to direct? Maybe he’ll even have his own Spidey Visa card.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-4-canceled-basically/524575/23 "2010-01-12T18:11:40Z")

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Apparently, Sony suddenly decided they wanted the movie done in 3-D, and Raimi has no experience in 3-D, so it’d take him six months to come up to speed properly. Which I can understand, you have to stage things right when dealing with new technology.

So he couldn’t get the movie out in time for them, so he had to leave.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-4-canceled-basically/524575/24 "2010-01-13T23:36:23Z")

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Movie makers certainly shouldn’t be shackled by continuity, and there’s nothing wrong with a reboot (I think everyone agrees that _Batman Begins_ and _The Dark Knight_ was better than anything that could have been done in continuity with the 1990s movies). But this soon after a series that was as good as the Spider-man movies were (at least the first two), it’s not time for a reboot. Either stay in the continuity that’s working well, or if there are reasons it looks like that’s a bad idea (used up the best material, cast aging, whatever), then just go and do some other superheroes for a few years and get back to the reboot later.

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**Author:** ![GreedySmurf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a698b9/32.png) [@GreedySmurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreedySmurf)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-4-canceled-basically/524575/25 "2010-01-14T00:25:39Z")

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My main issue with a ‘reboot’, is simply I don’t want to waste a solid chunk of a new spidey movie sitting through yet another retelling of his origin.

New actors, new director, whatever (It’s a shame though, 1 & 2 were great movies IMO), but I’ll live, but please don’t make me sit through the origin again.

I don’t buy the, ‘Spidey must be in high school to be interesting’ crap. That’s just as bad as the idiot Marvel CEO (who’s name escapes me at the moment) saying a married Peter Parker is too restricting. (That little escapade was the final nail in the coffin for my comic buying.)

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-4-canceled-basically/524575/26 "2010-01-14T00:45:06Z")

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> [@GreedySmurf](#):
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> My main issue with a ‘reboot’, is simply I don’t want to waste a solid chunk of a new spidey movie sitting through yet another retelling of his origin.
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> New actors, new director, whatever (It’s a shame though, 1 & 2 were great movies IMO), but I’ll live, but please don’t make me sit through the origin again.
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> I don’t buy the, ‘Spidey must be in high school to be interesting’ crap. That’s just as bad as the idiot Marvel CEO (who’s name escapes me at the moment) saying a married Peter Parker is too restricting. (That little escapade was the final nail in the coffin for my comic buying.)

They don’t necessarily have to do a retelling of the origin…the latest Hulk movie didn’t.  
I can kinda get behind the reboot because frankly, McGuire is getting a bit old for the role. Putting him in High School will also make it more of a draw for kids.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-4-canceled-basically/524575/27 "2010-01-14T02:26:55Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Tobey Maguire is too old and he sucks. Kirsten Dunst sucks, and Sam Raimi sucks.

I thought the first two movies were pretty good. Maguire was an excellent choice for Parker/Spider-Man, Dunst did fine, and the interpretation of Spider-Man from comic book to motion picture was excellent.

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> The three most recent movies were abysmal pieces of garbage.

I only thought part three was a bad movie. The other two were about as good as a superhero movie could be.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-4-canceled-basically/524575/28 "2010-01-14T05:30:12Z")

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I get bored with the origin story too, but then again it’s the most important story. If someone asks about Spiderman or Superman people are going to relate their origin story, not the issue #83 story.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-4-canceled-basically/524575/29 "2010-01-14T10:54:06Z")

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[http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/spiderman\_amazing/083.html](http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/spiderman_amazing/083.html)

I dunno. I’d watch that.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-4-canceled-basically/524575/30 "2010-01-14T17:34:30Z")

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_Oh dear God, **NO** _: [Is Twilight Star the New Spider-Man?](http://www.accessatlanta.com/celebrities-tv/etonline-headlines/is-robert-pattinson-the-275109.html?cxntlid=thbz_hm)

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**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-4-canceled-basically/524575/31 "2010-01-14T18:35:36Z")

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I wouldn’t have a problem with doing a new high-school version of Spidey, or continuing in continuity with new actors. What I don’t want is a retelling of the origin.

It’s been done and done well. Make a new movie, not a remake. There are many, many, many excellent spider-stories to tell–stop trying to tell the same story again. If the filmmaker really feels that a lot of his audience doesn’t know about the spider-bite origin, tell it during an opening credits montage.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-4-canceled-basically/524575/32 "2010-01-14T21:52:38Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> Boring? Grappling with normal teen problems in addition to super hero problems is one of the things that made Spider-Man so popular to begin with.

Maybe it’s just a suspicion that “grappling with normal teen problems” is code for “Peter Parker is life’s bitch”.

> [@spoke-](#):
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> _Oh dear God, **NO** _: [Is Twilight Star the New Spider-Man?](http://www.accessatlanta.com/celebrities-tv/etonline-headlines/is-robert-pattinson-the-275109.html?cxntlid=thbz_hm)

In Pattinson’s defence, he is not a True Believer. He has been quite open about what he thinks of Twilight.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-4-canceled-basically/524575/33 "2010-01-14T22:50:49Z")

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The latest Spiderman cartoon is The Spectacular Spiderman and it is of Spidey while he is still in high school after he got his powers and it was done by Sony. So I’m guessing they are just going to take the cartoon and turn it into a live action movie.

[http://www.spideytv.com/](http://www.spideytv.com/)

The cartoon is pretty good and if that is going to be the premise for the movie then I’m excited for the new movie.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-4-canceled-basically/524575/34 "2010-01-14T23:26:12Z")

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What’s with the need to “reboot” every damn superhero movie. They made Superman in 1978 and after a decade of questionable sequals, we did pretty well with just the one Superman franchise until the forgettable reboot a few years back.

I mean not counting the Smallville and Lois & Clark TV shows.

> [@RikWriter](#):
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> They don’t necessarily have to do a retelling of the origin…the latest Hulk movie didn’t.

The latest Hulk movie got away with it because the first Hulk movie sucked.

> [@Krokodil](#):
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> We only got one movie with Parker in high school, the most fertile and convincing milieu for the character ever. By all means, do a reboot!

Right. Because the issues faced by high schoolers are the most important ones they will face in their lifetime.

Even if that were true, that doesn’t mean every single high school class needs their own version of Spiderman.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-4-canceled-basically/524575/35 "2010-01-15T00:45:44Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> Maybe it’s just a suspicion that “grappling with normal teen problems” is code for “Peter Parker is life’s bitch”.

Have you ever read a Spider-Man comic? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-4-canceled-basically/524575/36 "2010-01-15T00:48:04Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> What’s with the need to “reboot” every damn superhero movie. They made Superman in 1978 and after a decade of questionable sequals, we did pretty well with just the one Superman franchise until the forgettable reboot a few years back.

The last Superman movie was a continuation of the old franchise not a reboot.

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