# Spider-man and Venom (not movie-related)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 2, 2004, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-and-venom-not-movie-related/253193 "2004-07-02T07:13:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2004, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-and-venom-not-movie-related/253193/21 "2004-07-03T00:23:39Z")

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I never did see all the episodes of the cartoon, only the ones I watched with my kids. If you say Carnage was there, I’ll believe it. Seems like they’d have to tone him WAY the hell down, though.

At one point, some outfit (either the government, or Roxxon, Marvel’s all-purpose evil corporation) got hold of Venom and forced the symbiote to spawn five infant symbiotes, so they could bond them to their own operatives; Shriek was one of these. The other four symbiotes died, and it was said, IIRC, that the Venom symbiote would never spawn again.

Then again, this is the comics we’re talking about.

I’ve been keeping up with comics somewhat lately, but I quit keeping up with Marvel continuity, in general, back around 1989 or so, so I couldn’t tell you what Venom’s been up to lately…

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2004, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-and-venom-not-movie-related/253193/22 "2004-07-03T00:31:12Z")

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[See eps 38 & 39](http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/EpisodeGuideSummary/showid-2439/season-3)

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2004, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-and-venom-not-movie-related/253193/23 "2004-07-03T01:53:29Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> Personally, I can’t stand any of the alien symbiote stuff, and wish it’d all go away. It’s the second-dumbest thing I’ve ever seen in the Spider-Man comics, losing only to the rightly-maligned “Spider-clone” bruhaha.

Actually, I rather liked the whole symbiote thing and actually think it could make a good plotline for Spider-Man 3, if they ever make one. Of course, I’ve only ever watched the 90s cartoon, as I’ve never liked actually reading comic books (but that’s a subject for a different thread, which I might actually finally start sometime.)

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-and-venom-not-movie-related/253193/24 "2004-07-06T12:22:05Z")

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Nit pick time.

> [@Master Wang-Ka](#):
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> 1. COMIC BOOK VERSION:
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> —snip—
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> …but it didn’t much like being taken off and hung up at night. It started oozing onto Spidey as he slept, and going out and swinging around and fighting crime while he snoozed. On at least one occasion, the symbiote attacked a complete stranger and made HIM swing around town dressed as Spider-Man!
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> Spidey checked with Reed Richards of the Fantastic Four, who examined the thing and told him it was an alien being trying to bond with him permanently! After quite a struggle, he finally rid himself of the creature in the attic of a church. How Peter Parker got home in his underwear remains unclear.

The costume was removed by Reed Richards in ASM#258. Richards used a sonic blaster and attempted to store it in the Baxter Building. Rather than show his identity to the Fantastic Four, he went home in Jonny Storm’s old uniform with a bag over his head and a “Kick Me” sign taped to his back. (Enter the Unkown Superhero.)

The costume escaped after repeatedly pounding on its jar and making a small crack which it oozed out through. It’s attempt at getting back to Spidey is when the above mentioned abduction for the “fat spidey” occured. (I’m not sure whether Fat Spidey actually fought crime, or if muggers just saw him and ran away.

The costume finally caught up with Peter Parker just in time for Web #1. Which is where the church and bells came in. I still have no clue how he got home that time.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-and-venom-not-movie-related/253193/25 "2004-07-06T15:24:56Z")

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> [@Maus Magill](#):
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> The costume escaped after repeatedly pounding on its jar and making a small crack which it oozed out through.

The costume escaped when a probe built by Doctor Doom drilled a hole in its enclosure. I think it happened in Fantastic Four, not ASM.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-and-venom-not-movie-related/253193/26 "2004-07-06T17:43:36Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> The costume escaped when a probe built by Doctor Doom drilled a hole in its enclosure. I think it happened in Fantastic Four, not ASM.

That’s right. I remembered the jar had somehow aquired a hole, and assumed it was a stress fracture. I forgot about the Doombot Probe.

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