# Spider-Man: Far From Home - Seen it thread - SPOILERS! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies, comic-books-manga\ **Created:** [July 2, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426 "2019-07-02T22:52:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/61 "2019-07-08T22:37:17Z")
> [@ENugent](#): > > Weren’t he and Ned building a Lego Death Star in Homecoming? Didn’t _Homecoming_ take place chronologically after _Civil War_? I’m not sure what part of my fanwank is inconsistent with MCU canon? ---
**Author:** ![ENugent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@ENugent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ENugent)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/62 "2019-07-08T23:53:59Z")
> [@Reluctant\_A](#): > > Didn’t _Homecoming_ take place chronologically after _Civil War_? I’m not sure what part of my fanwank is inconsistent with MCU canon? Might have been - I don’t remember the details of what happened when and to whom. Just adding a data point about Peter Parker and _Star Wars_. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/63 "2019-07-08T23:56:01Z")
> [@Reluctant\_A](#): > > Didn’t _Homecoming_ take place chronologically after _Civil War_? I’m not sure what part of my fanwank is inconsistent with MCU canon? Definitely after - in Homecoming Peter talks to Ned about having met Cap - and the gym teacher gets questions about why the kids are watching a video by Cap, a wanted man. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/64 "2019-07-09T00:41:20Z")
> [@Reluctant\_A](#): > > It is also possible that, prior to Germany, he only _had_ seen it once but, on recommendation from some of the other heroes, he decided to re-watch the franchise, and subsequently got hooked. Other possibilities: He’s not really that into Star Wars, but Ned is, and Pete’s picked some stuff up by osmosis. The Lego Death Star was actually Ned’s. He is really into Star Wars, but doesn’t want his cool new superhero friends to think he’s a nerd, so he couches it like it’s some old thing he doesn’t really care about. The events in Civil War happened prior to the release (in the MCU) of _The Force Awakens_, and Peter didn’t become a SW fan until he saw the new ones. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/65 "2019-07-09T01:30:17Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > They can easily bring Mysterio back -\*\* that bald guy\*\* got away with Beck’s hologram software. He can be the new Mysterio - and they can still get Jake Gyllenhaal in to play him for the illusionary bits. **That Bald Guy** was played by Peter Billingsley, most know for Ralphie, who most certainly did NOT shoot his eye out with his Red Ryder BB gun on Christmas morning. I knew he looked familiar but I didn’t think anything about it at the time. And as far as everyone knowing Brad… Do we know it was JUST a high school? Maybe it’s k-12 or 4-12. Or he’s someone’s younger brother. My kid hasn’t seen the Garfield or McGuire Spiderman movies so we had a VERY Who’s on First moment when JJJ popped up. That guy was in the other movies. I love him! Who? That guy who was just yelling. He’s one of the M&Ms and was on a lot of Law&Orders. Which guy? That guy who was just on. But who is he? He was in the other movies. He was Peter’s boss. Which guy? THAT GUY WHO WAS JUST YELLING. But who is he? He is an actor. He was in that trailer with T’Challa before the movie. He was in the other Spiderman movies as Peter’s boss. Who? I swear I live half my life like Dr Strange. “Dormamu, I’ve come to bargain.” Lather. Rinse. Repeat. ---
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/66 "2019-07-09T23:52:09Z")
I enjoyed the movie a lot. I was also not surprised as I knew Mysterio as a bad guy but did wonder if they were going to change it. Until he wanted Edith, then I knew for sure he was a bad guy. I don’t prefer teen angst type stuff but knew to expect it with Spiderman and that mostly worked for me. I will see how it goes on second viewing. (Eventually.) I’m also curious when I next rewatch Homecoming if it will make the scenes with Tony more poignant, knowing now what he was thinking about Peter. Great discussion! Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/67 "2019-07-10T01:33:25Z")
> [@vislor](#): > > I’m also curious when I next rewatch Homecoming if it will make the scenes with Tony more poignant, knowing now what he was thinking about Peter. Do you mean Endgame? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/68 "2019-07-10T04:36:56Z")
Just got home (held out 'til $5 Movie Night) and I loved it. I rewatched _Avengers:Endust_ to get ready (unnecessary, but it was nice to be immersed in that world). I went into _Spider-Man FFS_ wondering if it’s the first film of the MCU Phase 4, or (as Kevin Feige recently called it) the last film of the MCU Phase 3, but guess what? I don’t care, I’d say “Naaah, doesn’t matter, it’s a Spider-Man movie. And a lot of fun.” I’ve been a Spidey fan since buying Issue #6 at Herbst’s Drug Store. Loved the first Tobey McGuire movie… my kid sneered “Spider-Man? More like the Peter Parker movie!” THAT’S why I loved it, the “ordinary teenager tries to cope” aspect. Andrew Garfield didn’t seem to be a hapless teen, and frankly I never cared about his character. But Tom Holland? Hapless Teen To The Max! I sort of feel like the original Steve Ditko character is back. ---
**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/69 "2019-07-10T18:56:35Z")
You can’t just ghost nick fury! ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/70 "2019-07-10T20:26:56Z")
Does Pepper Potts know that Happy’s password is password? Did Tony know? I strongly suspect that when Natasha was undercover there, she knew it. When Ned told Betty that the hero in the black suit was “Night Monkey”, for a split second I thought he was going to say “Nightcrawler”, which would have been a nod to the X-Men. The other members of Beck’s team should show up on Marvel’s Agents of Shield. They’ve got tech know-how. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/71 "2019-07-10T22:07:39Z")
I think Agents of Shield has stopped pretending it’s in the MCU at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/72 "2019-07-11T18:17:38Z")
> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#): > > Does Pepper Potts know that Happy’s password is password? Did Tony know? I strongly suspect that when Natasha was undercover there, she knew it. It’s of course a bad choice - but on the other hand, if you were hacking Stark Enterprises head of security, would you even bother with a dictionary attack, much less trying “password”? Note that it took 3 or 4 tries to communicate to Peter that his password was actually “password”. And of course, it is easy to remember. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/73 "2019-07-11T18:32:26Z")
I loved it. Near the top tier of MCU movies, IMO. Gyllenhal was teriffic, as were just about all of the rest of the cast. The one thing I was complaining about through the movie – Nick Fury really couldn’t be this gullible, could he? – was addressed in the post-credits scenes. JK Simmons as Jameson was a really nice surprise! ---
**Author:** ![DerNils](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerNils](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerNils)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/74 "2019-07-12T08:28:54Z")
I loved that they gave Mysterio a Team. With the scale of the illiusions it really would make no sense that he can coordinate all that stuff. My absolute favourites are a costume Lady and a script guy! That man knows that heroic speeches don’t just happen (except for Cap) I also enjoyed the uber-trippy Berlin fight, even though it made really no sense that he didn’t just shoot Spidey. But hey, he is a Showman at heart, so why not go for the Cartoon “hit by a Train” death? The Night Monkey Running joke was awesome, especially him popping up all over the News. I agree that they really, really need to stop killing their villains. I thought they learned their lesson with the Vulture. Then again, if one villain is capable of faking his death, it’s Mysterio. Jake Gyllenhall put in a wonderful Performance - I was really sad that I knew all that great chemistry would be a fake in the end. And there is no question that he pulled off the glasses way better than Peter 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/75 "2019-07-12T09:08:57Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I loved it. Near the top tier of MCU movies, IMO. Gyllenhal was teriffic, as were just about all of the rest of the cast. The one thing I was complaining about through the movie – Nick Fury really couldn’t be this gullible, could he? – was addressed in the post-credits scenes. JK Simmons as Jameson was a really nice surprise! I thought there was something off about Samuel L. Jackson’s performance as Nick Fury. He’s always been a dick, but he’s not that kind of dick. The post-credit scene explained all. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/76 "2019-07-12T12:41:58Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > **That Bald Guy** was played by Peter Billingsley, most know for Ralphie, who most certainly did NOT shoot his eye out with his Red Ryder BB gun on Christmas morning. I knew he looked familiar but I didn’t think anything about it at the time. I had no idea. I didn’t recognize him. He was one of the producers of Iron Man so he’s one of the fathers of the MCU. In Iron Man he had a cameo as the same character he plays in Far From Home. He’s good buddies and business partners with Favreau and Vince Vaughn and is involved off-screen in many of their projects. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/77 "2019-07-14T07:43:51Z")
The wife and I saw it today. Liked it. Waiting for the next one. A little poignant that this is the first Marvel film without a Stan Lee cameo. (Or was that the last Avengers movie?) I can’t believe the shlubs who race out of the theater as soon as the credits start. The wife and I are end-credit junkies and always stay until the very, very end of any film we see, no matter what. And while I know not everyone is like that … come on, this is a Marvel film! You ought to know there’s going to be some good extra scenes coming. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/78 "2019-07-14T13:17:14Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > The wife and I saw it today. Liked it. Waiting for the next one. A little poignant that this is the first Marvel film without a Stan Lee cameo. (Or was that the last Avengers movie?) There was a cameo during Endgame. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/79 "2019-07-14T20:21:34Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > 1. There is a mid-credits scene, and and end-credits scene, and you should stay for both. The first will have a major impact on any Spider-Man stories going forward, and the second will have a major impact on the MCU in general. Is it clear that it will, though? Seems like they could just write it off as a one-off joke. So Fury was off-world with the Skrulls at some point, and had a shape-shifter standing in; there need not be any bigger deal to it. Or am I missing the importance of that scene? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426/80 "2019-07-14T20:27:53Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > Is it clear that it will, though? Seems like they could just write it off as a one-off joke. So Fury was off-world with the Skrulls at some point, and had a shape-shifter standing in; there need not be any bigger deal to it. Or am I missing the importance of that scene? I’m guessing It could mean that the next chapter of the MCU will revolve around the Kree/Skrull War or one of the other major Skrull plot lines that happened after I stopped reading comic books. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-far-from-home-seen-it-thread-spoilers/836426.md?page=5)