# Spider-Man: Homecoming is the official movie name **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 13, 2016, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-homecoming-is-the-official-movie-name/752073 "2016-04-13T10:32:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-homecoming-is-the-official-movie-name/752073/1 "2016-04-13T10:32:03Z")
Or so I am reading online. Supposed to speak to the theme of the movie and some events at high school, which I assume must mean a Homecoming Dance. So the awkward teen element is going to be pushed forward a lot I assume. Man, are they going for a full John Hughes movie or what? I can totally see the new Peter Parker in thrift-shop clothes singing Try a Little Tenderness. Go Duckie!! 😉 Seriously, they seem committed to the “graft a comic hero into a classic movie genre” approach. That approach has certainly worked in comic books themselves, and Marvel has mostly done a great job with the previous examples. Could be fun. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-homecoming-is-the-official-movie-name/752073/2 "2016-04-13T11:05:49Z")
That sounds like a terrible title. I was hoping for _Spectacular Spider-Man_. Or any unused [one of these](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spider-Man_titles#Previous_series). (_Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-Man_ sounds good) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2016, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-homecoming-is-the-official-movie-name/752073/3 "2016-04-16T10:03:52Z")
I’m a big confused. I thought I read Marvel was only doing the other Spider-Man–Miles Morales. You know, because Sony still technically has Spider-Man universe rights. (And are even planning some of their villain movies again.) But everyone is talking about Peter when discussing this now. Like in [this IGN article](http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/15/5-spider-man-comics-the-homecoming-movie-could-adapt) I saw when googling the news. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2016, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-homecoming-is-the-official-movie-name/752073/4 "2016-04-16T10:33:42Z")
Marvel arguably (_very_ arguably) held the rights to the character “Miles Morales,” but certainly would not have been able to call him “Spider-Man.” No way Sony leaves a loophole in the contract that allows Marvel to make competing Spider-Man movies just by changing the name of the guy under the mask. When _Amazing Spider-Man 2_ failed at the box office, Sony licensed the rights back to Marvel. They didn’t relinquish them out right - Sony’s getting a piece of Civil War now, and the new Spider-Man movie coming out next year is going to be a joint effort between Sony and Marvel. There was some fan speculation that Marvel might go with Miles for their Spidey just to break their “every lead is a white guy, mostly named Chris,” streak, but they’re going with Peter instead. At least this ones played by a guy named Tom. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2016, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-homecoming-is-the-official-movie-name/752073/5 "2016-04-16T22:29:41Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Marvel arguably (_very_ arguably) held the rights to the character “Miles Morales,” but certainly would not have been able to call him “Spider-Man.” No way Sony leaves a loophole in the contract that allows Marvel to make competing Spider-Man movies just by changing the name of the guy under the mask. > > When _Amazing Spider-Man 2_ failed at the box office, Sony licensed the rights back to Marvel. They didn’t relinquish them out right - Sony’s getting a piece of Civil War now, and the new Spider-Man movie coming out next year is going to be a joint effort between Sony and Marvel. There was some fan speculation that Marvel might go with Miles for their Spidey just to break their “every lead is a white guy, mostly named Chris,” streak, but they’re going with Peter instead. > > At least this ones played by a guy named Tom. Oh, I knew about the agreement after ASM2, but I thought they only agreed to allow Spider-Man and not Peter Parker. So it was just some rumors instead. Thanks. I also didn’t realize this was a joint movie. That makes more sense with what I heard initially–that Marvel only got to use the character, not make a movie. So they have to do a joint movie. As you can probably tell, I haven’t been following this too closely. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2016, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-homecoming-is-the-official-movie-name/752073/6 "2016-04-17T00:38:26Z")
Sony can have some money, if they want, as long as Marvel still has full creative control. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2016, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-homecoming-is-the-official-movie-name/752073/7 "2016-04-17T01:13:00Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Marvel arguably (_very_ arguably) held the rights to the character “Miles Morales,” but certainly would not have been able to call him “Spider-Man.” No way Sony leaves a loophole in the contract that allows Marvel to make competing Spider-Man movies just by changing the name of the guy under the mask. > > When _Amazing Spider-Man 2_ failed at the box office, Sony licensed the rights back to Marvel. They didn’t relinquish them out right - Sony’s getting a piece of Civil War now, and the new Spider-Man movie coming out next year is going to be a joint effort between Sony and Marvel. There was some fan speculation that Marvel might go with Miles for their Spidey just to break their “every lead is a white guy, mostly named Chris,” streak, but they’re going with Peter instead. > > At least this ones played by a guy named Tom. Amazing spider man 2 actually did better at the box office than most Marvel movies. [709 million](http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=amazingspiderman2.htm) is nothing to sneeze at. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-homecoming-is-the-official-movie-name/752073/8 "2016-04-17T01:57:02Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Amazing spider man 2 actually did better at the box office than most Marvel movies. [709 million](http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=amazingspiderman2.htm) is nothing to sneeze at. But it didn’t triple its budget; the **Iron Man** sequels all have, of course, as did the **Avengers** sequel and the **Thor** sequel and the **Captain America** sequel; heck, over at the Distinguished Competition, the critically savaged **Batman vs. Superman** is already well past that mark as the sequel to **Man of Steel**. Tobey Maguire’s outings as Spider-Man – yes, even the regrettable one – all more than tripled their budgets, just like everything Marvel Studios has been putting out there lately, from **Guardians of the Galaxy** to **Ant-Man** ; obviously ASM2 could’ve done worse, plenty of movies fail to even break even; but its gross needs a “huge budget” asterisk. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-homecoming-is-the-official-movie-name/752073/9 "2016-04-17T16:46:48Z")
That just means they spent way way too much though, not that the movie didn’t do well. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-homecoming-is-the-official-movie-name/752073/10 "2016-04-17T17:11:22Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > But it didn’t triple its budget; the **Iron Man** sequels all have, of course, as did the **Avengers** sequel and the **Thor** sequel and the **Captain America** sequel; heck, over at the Distinguished Competition, the critically savaged **Batman vs. Superman** is already well past that mark as the sequel to **Man of Steel**. That’s the other thing - it’s not just a question of how well this film does, it’s how well it positions itself for a sequel. ASM2 made decent enough money, but the critical and popular response was still pretty “meh.” Sony probably looked at that and figured that the risk of a third Amazing film being an outright flop was too high.