# Spider-man is unfanwankable

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** comic-books-manga\
**Created:** [December 7, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-is-unfanwankable/955669 "2021-12-07T22:12:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-is-unfanwankable/955669/61 "2021-12-14T23:38:21Z")

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Most superheroes were created by Jewish men.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-is-unfanwankable/955669/62 "2021-12-14T23:46:39Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Calling mutants _homo superior_ was an intentional parallel to “God’s chosen people” and the racist resentment that might inspire.

I’m pretty sure that’s not accurate.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-is-unfanwankable/955669/63 "2021-12-15T00:41:08Z")

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Admittedly, it’s an inference, but I don’t think the parallels were lost on Lee and Kirby when Magneto used the term provocatively in X-Men #1.  
[https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Damian-Perez-6/publication/343498108/figure/fig6/AS:921718973550593@1596766336118/Magneto-mentioned-for-the-first-time-the-name-Homo-superior-From-The-X-Men-1-X1-p.jpg](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Damian-Perez-6/publication/343498108/figure/fig6/AS:921718973550593@1596766336118/Magneto-mentioned-for-the-first-time-the-name-Homo-superior-From-The-X-Men-1-X1-p.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-is-unfanwankable/955669/64 "2021-12-15T03:12:27Z")

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> [@caligulathegod](#):
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> It never made sense to me why they _would_ be in the same world as regular superheroes for the very reason that regular superheroes were _not_ hated.

They exist in the same world because crossovers with other comic titles potentially brings in new readers. (The first one is in issue 6, but the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver were new characters introduced in issue 4—the MCU Avengers would be pretty different if it the Avengers and X-Men never had crossovers. To fit the thread topic, Spidey didn’t show up until issue 35.)

> **[The X-Men (Volume) - Comic Vine](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/the-x-men/4050-2133/?sortBy=asc)**
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> Volume 1.

But those crossovers just don’t seem that weird to me. You want weird, how about crossovers with comics created specifically as advertising for a toy or toy line? There were multiple crossovers between Rom and other Marvel lines, including the X-Men and Avengers as individuals and as teams. (Rom himself was spun off to another publisher and can’t be used, but there are encounters with other Space Nights even today.)

> **[Rom](https://fictionalcrossover.fandom.com/wiki/Rom)**
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> For detailed information about this series, see: Rom the Space Knight at Wikipedia Rom the Space Knight, also known simply as Rom, was a toy created by Scott Dankman, Richard C. Levy, and Bryan L. McCoy and manufactured by Parker Brothers. It would...

Even weirder is Crystar. A short-lived toy line from the early 1980s (I had several of them) it had an 11-issue comic run then disappeared forever. Except that Marvel brought the characters back in a crossover series a few years ago.

[https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/huge-lot-saga-crystar-crystal-517373491](https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/huge-lot-saga-crystar-crystal-517373491)

The guy with the purple robe and beard is a character in a current Marvel comic line. Except he has been transformed into a horned, winged talking black cat and lives in a school of magic run by Doctor Strange, with teachers including the Scarlet Witch and Magik from New Mutants/the X-men.

[https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/meet-the-students-of-strange-academy](https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/meet-the-students-of-strange-academy)

Now _that’s_ weird.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-is-unfanwankable/955669/65 "2021-12-15T10:45:02Z")

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That’s not weird.

[Death’s Head](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/f/fd/Death%27s_Head_Vol_2_1_McKone_Variant_Textless.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190418222819) is a time travelling robotic bounty hunter, who’s fought [Spider-Man](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/49/a8/5d/49a85d516759624dd359ba3d259d2592--comics-uk-marvel-comics.jpg) and the [Fantastic Four](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/cmx-images-prod/Item/835714/835714._SX1600_QL80_TTD_.jpg). His origin? He was originally created as the host for the consciousness of an evil wizard, but before the wizard could transfer his mind, he was [stolen by Dr. Who](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQDlSL6DKkOUQpdsbdSwhsKixIvNVhMK6DmKA&usqp=CAU) to help [the Transformers](https://imgur.com/Xhg45qY) win a war in the future.

_That’s_ weird.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-is-unfanwankable/955669/66 "2021-12-16T06:24:41Z")

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> **[Death's Head (Styrakos)](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Death%27s_Head_(Styrakos))**
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> Death's Head was originally created on Styrakos as a robotic body intended to be used by a mage named Ty Rejutka Lupex, whose own body was beginning to fail him due to the massive energies he contained. Lupex however was double crossed by Pyra who...

[![](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/5/55/Death%27s_Head_%28Earth-TRN234%29_from_Death%27s_Head_Vol_1_1_%28Cover%29.jpg) ](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/5/55/Death%27s_Head_%28Earth-TRN234%29_from_Death%27s_Head_Vol_1_1_%28Cover%29.jpg)

I remember Death’s Head from comics I read in the 90s. He certainly was weird.

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