# Spider-Man vs. Wonder Woman: Which should I see? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 11, 2017, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015 "2017-07-11T17:22:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/21 "2017-07-12T12:24:44Z")
> [@magnusblitz](#): > > What exactly do you think WW did that is different? If anything my feeling coming out of Wonder Woman was “ah good, DC finally managed to make a Marvel movie.” As **bbonden** said to me it felt a lot like _Thor_ (demigod from another land has to fit into society) and _Captain America_ (war setting, teams up with a squad of normies). On some further pondering, I think WW benefited from being a standalone film (other than the framing bookends). Since WW is set so far in the past, there is nothing available to tie into. As **SciFiSam** noted, a lot of what is fun about Spider-Man is the call backs to various other MCU films. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/22 "2017-07-12T13:08:43Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **Quimby** : > > They are both very good. I would pick WW only because it will be out of theaters soon. I was sort of thinking this, too. I probably will see Wonder Woman first, because that way, if I decide later in the summer to see another movie, I’ll still have a chance. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/23 "2017-07-12T14:28:25Z")
Like **Chronos** , I enjoy a good superhero movie but am not a real “fan”…have only seen a small percentage of what’s been done since the resurgence began with 1989’s BATMAN (or would you say 1978’s SUPERMAN?). I’ve seen neither WW or SM, but I would lean toward SM. I’m not overexposed to the Marvel formula. Never been crazy about Wonder Woman, although Canadian genius artist Kate Beaton pulled off a couple of good takes on 'er. [http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php/index.php?id=328](http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php/index.php?id=328) [http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=275](http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=275) ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/24 "2017-07-12T14:52:57Z")
I’ll say this. Wonder Woman represents a landmark, both for being a superhero film featuring a woman as the lead and for being the first D.C. success in a while, with a tone significantly different from the Marvel formula. Spider Man will be just another successful MCU formula installment. It’s worth being part of the superhero film cultural event of 2017 of Wonder Woman. You can watch Spider Man on streaming or whatever some other time. It’s what the seventh recent Spider Man movie? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Doremro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Mr.Doremro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Doremro)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/25 "2017-07-12T15:24:15Z")
When thinking about all the movies coming out this summer I decided I wanted to see Wonder Woman over Spider-Man: Homecoming. I probably will see Spider-Man, but made it a point to see Wonder Woman (and did a week or so ago). My reasoning was Wonder Woman was original (there have been now 6 Spider-Man movies in the past 15 years??) and there was good early buzz about it. I wanted to throw my support behind it as I **WANT** DC to succeed like Marvel. DC’s paltry efforts so far at a shared universe have made me sad ☹ ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/26 "2017-07-13T11:39:51Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Out of curiosity, **BigT** , which Spider-man movie that you’re assuming I saw was better? I haven’t watched those for a while, either. I consider the definitive Spider-man movie to still be _Spider-man 2_. I’ve not seen anyone who disagrees. Most also seem to think _Spider-man_ was better than _Homecoming_. After that, it varies. Some think _Amazing Spider-man_ is also better. Most think that _Amazing Spider-man 2_ and _Spider-man 3_ were worse. That makes _Homecoming_ about middle of the pack. > [@magnusblitz](#): > > What exactly do you think WW did that is different? If anything my feeling coming out of Wonder Woman was “ah good, DC finally managed to make a Marvel movie.” As **bbonden** said to me it felt a lot like _Thor_ (demigod from another land has to fit into society) and _Captain America_ (war setting, teams up with a squad of normies). It portrays the quintessential DC superhero, something we’ve not seen since _Superman 2_. It just a genuinely good person with powers fighting evil, and does a great job with that. It’s not a movie about overcoming personal flaws to do good–the Marvel superhero model. (Sure, Cap is probably the closest, but he’s still clearly flawed.) It also handles the sexism aspect the right way, something Marvel hasn’t even approached. It’s the rare Hollywood movie that is supposed to be empowering to women that is empowering to women. And it doesn’t try to set up 500 different movies. It doesn’t set up any, as far as I can tell. It just does a minimal link to the previous movie that has the same actor playing the same character by setting it up as a flashback. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/27 "2017-07-13T12:44:48Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I consider the definitive Spider-man movie to still be _Spider-man 2_. I’ve not seen anyone who disagrees. Most also seem to think _Spider-man_ was better than _Homecoming_. After that, it varies. Some think _Amazing Spider-man_ is also better. Most think that _Amazing Spider-man 2_ and _Spider-man 3_ were worse. That makes _Homecoming_ about middle of the pack. Yeah, I’m surprised you haven’t seen anyone who disagreed with that. Most critics consider Homecoming to be at least the second best Spider-Man movie behind 2, while quite a few consider it the best. I personally think it’s better made and has a much more believable villain than 2 and I think Tom Holland is a much better Peter Parker. It’s worlds better than either of the Mark Webb/Andrew Garfield Spider-Man movies. ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/28 "2017-07-13T14:22:03Z")
It wasn’t until the hype train started for _Homecoming_ that I can recall any hearing or reading any kind of praise for _Spider-man 2_, and I don’t remember thinking that much of it the last time I saw it… Did I watch that movie wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/29 "2017-07-13T14:54:33Z")
See WW. It’s a well balanced film with a well written story. It shows some back story of the Amazons. Then of Diana herself. And then Diana encountering our world and there’s some humor there in the juxtaposition. And then it turns into a Superhero movie. My mom who doesn’t like comics wanted to see it and loved it and had no problem following along with the story. I only saw it, I usually wait for the DVDs, because she wanted me to go to explain the comic book stuff to her. There was no explanations needed. It is a well written story. ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/30 "2017-07-13T15:31:58Z")
> [@Reluctant\_A](#): > > It wasn’t until the hype train started for _Homecoming_ that I can recall any hearing or reading any kind of praise for _Spider-man 2_, and I don’t remember thinking that much of it the last time I saw it… Did I watch that movie wrong? Spider-Man 2, in my experience, has always been considered one of the greatest comic movies of all time. That level of praise didn’t start recently, but ever since its release. It’s generally highly-regarded among people who regard those things. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/31 "2017-07-13T18:37:06Z")
Spider-Man 2 was the one with Doc Oc, right? I did see that one, and the one before it. Both were quite good, and recognized as such at the time, though I’m not sure that there was a clear consensus that 2 was better than 1. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/32 "2017-07-13T18:50:47Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > I personally think it’s better made and has a much more believable villain than 2 and I think Tom Holland is a much better Peter Parker. And while they don’t give Marisa Tomei a lot to do, she memorably nails it. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/33 "2017-07-13T19:20:19Z")
If you prefer a light, fun movie that finally gets Spidey right, see Spider-Man. If you prefer an inspiring, more serious but still far more lighthearted than the average DC fare movie that finally gets a female lead heroine right, see Wonder Woman. They’re both excellent, but they definitely have a different focus. ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/34 "2017-07-14T02:08:52Z")
> [@planetcory](#): > > Spider-Man 2, in my experience, has always been considered one of the greatest comic movies of all time. That level of praise didn’t start recently, but ever since its release. It’s generally highly-regarded among people who regard those things. Huh. It must be like with _Ghostbusters_, when I didn’t realize until the remake came out that the original being beloved was actually a thing. Like I said, I guess I’m watching movies wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/35 "2017-07-14T05:34:45Z")
_Spider-Man: Homecoming_ is clearly the better film. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/36 "2017-07-14T08:49:53Z")
I have not seen any of the Snyder DC movies due to bad buzz. Despite the good response to _Wonder Woman_ I still chose not to see it in the cinema because as far as I could tell those irritating Snydery things like slow motion and a muddy colour grade still applied, though it was hard to know if there was a lot or a little of those things as most reviews never mentioned them or maybe they had gotten used to it. So all I can recommend is the new _Spider-Man_, which I really enjoyed, even though there was very little in it we haven’t seen variations on before. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/37 "2017-07-14T12:30:24Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > _Spider-Man: Homecoming_ is clearly the better film. And I disagree. Whatdya know? Although both are very good. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/38 "2017-07-14T20:04:30Z")
I just got back from seeing _Wonder Woman_. It was not without flaws, but it was a lot deeper than most movies, and there were a lot of things it did right. Now off to the spoiler thread! ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/39 "2017-07-14T20:13:35Z")
Woo-hoo! ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015/40 "2017-07-15T04:58:25Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I just got back from seeing _Wonder Woman_. It was not without flaws, but it was a lot deeper than most movies, and there were a lot of things it did right. > > Now off to the spoiler thread! Hopefully you will have time to go see the better one now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spider-man-vs-wonder-woman-which-should-i-see/791015.md?page=3)