# Spiderman the movie question - \*SPOILER!!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 6, 2002, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476 "2002-05-06T03:12:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/41 "2002-05-30T15:48:14Z")
According to Premiere magazine the New Yorkers on the bridge and the end scene on the flagpole were added post-9/11. (Re: Spidey/Green Goblin/Henry…I do vaguely remember Henry pulling a gun, but still don’t remember Spiderman bringing Osborne back after killing him. I just obviously had a brain fart or something and am going to take your word for it.) ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/42 "2002-05-30T18:16:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by flowbark \* > NYC actually has a fair number of diners, most slightly less expensive than the Moondance in Tribeca.[sup]1[/sup] (Furthermore, some have pointed out that NYC is actually a great place to go for good cheap food. Example: Little India in the E. Village.) > > Greatest City in the World. In the right neighborhood, in the right diner, you _might_ be able to afford a cheeseburger. Add a soda, and the waiter/ress isn’t getting a tip. ---
**Author:** ![Number](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/number/32/242_2.png) [@Number](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Number)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/43 "2002-05-30T18:54:21Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by voguevixen_ > (Re: Spidey/Green Goblin/Henry…I do vaguely remember Henry pulling a gun, but still don’t remember Spiderman bringing Osborne back after killing him. I just obviously had a brain fart or something and am going to take your word for it.) They omitted the part where he dragged the body back, stripped it, and then pulled fresh clothes onto it (all the while trying not to let any entrails spill out of the gaping wounds). Isn’t it annoying how movies leave out the really interesting details about life as a superhero? ---
**Author:** ![downbylaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9c0ed/32.png) [@downbylaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/downbylaw)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/44 "2002-05-30T19:27:37Z")
harry osborne becomes green goblin II. at least in the comics. but making him the hobgoblin in the sequel would probably make for better drama, because who wants to see the same villian in consecutive movies? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/45 "2002-05-30T21:17:25Z")
Quoth **Drastic** : > [@](#): > > Harry goes to gander at Pa’s corpse after Spidey vanishes after being spotted. It’s going to be fairly obvious that pop did not die of a heart attack, since an infarction doesn’t usually cause big holes punched through the abdomen (caveat: I am not a physician). So, the coroner is probably not going to rule it death by natural causes. Yes, but how does any of this point to _Spidey_ being the killer? Unless Harry already knows his father’s identity, the most logical conclusion is that the Green Goblin killed his dad (which was, in fact, true). Of the two costumed freaks, GG is the one who kills indiscriminately, and GG is the one who uses a big sharp pointy thing. Spidey is the one who uses webs, and Spidey is the one who _respectfully returns the body to the next of kin_. Now, if it had been asphixiation by webbing, and Harry just found the corpse lying around, _then_ vengeance against Spider-Man would make sense. Spider-man really should have said something like “I’m sorry, I tried to save him, but I wasn’t able to. The Goblin got him”, but even without him saying that, it seems to me that that’s what Harry should have inferred. ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/46 "2002-05-30T23:29:03Z")
Drastic - let’s not forget that at least one newspaper represents Spiderman as a criminal and a menace to society. Osborne son comes in, sees Spiderman next to his dead father. His first thought could be “OMG! My father interrupted Spiderman in the middle of a robbery and Spiderman killed him!” (after all Osborne senior _is_ a very rich man) instead of “my father is a crazed lunatic and Spiderman is a hero.” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/47 "2002-05-30T23:36:26Z")
Geez, Chronos, where have _you_ been? People ladling oodles of unfounded accusations and blame on poor Spidey has been a mainstay of the character for 40 years! ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/48 "2002-05-30T23:37:47Z")
Chronos - I’ll object to your version also. If I were Harry I wouldn’t think the Green Goblin enters into it - after all what are the odds of his father being in that neighbourhood? ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/49 "2002-05-30T23:43:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bryan Ekers \* > Actually, the biggest unresolved threat to Spidey’s identity is the wrestling promoter and any member of his staff who sees Peter’s face. They even _named_ him at the match! I find it unlikely that they wouldn’t come forward when “Spider-Man” became a folk hero. They even have Peter’s real name, since he signed that release form. How do you know he didn’t sign as “Clark Kent”, “Cecil Adams” or “Bryan Ekers”? I don’t remember if he says his real name when he presents himself at the table, but even if he does, what are the odds that the employee (the woman who thinks he’s too puny to wrestle) would remember it? And not very many people in that scene would have seen him unmasked **and** have scrutinized his facial features enough to be able to recognize him later. ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/50 "2002-05-30T23:46:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Osiris \* > My question, since we’re off the OP, is what happened to the spider? It weaved its web, and in the process of catching its dinner created a whole race of super-flies and super-ants, coming soon to your neighbourhood. Fortunately, it also bit the exterminator sent to kill it, so we will have a SuperExterminator to kill the SuperPests. ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2002, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/51 "2002-05-31T00:43:08Z")
Very interesting. _goes off singing the theme song to Spider-Fly_ ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2002, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/52 "2002-05-31T00:48:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Arnold Winkelried \* > \*\*How do you know he didn’t sign as “Clark Kent”, “Cecil Adams” or “Bryan Ekers”? I don’t remember if he says his real name when he presents himself at the table, but even if he does, what are the odds that the employee (the woman who thinks he’s too puny to wrestle) would remember it? And not very many people in that scene would have seen him unmasked **and** have scrutinized his facial features enough to be able to recognize him later. \*\* Peter Parker strikes me as too nebbishy to be devious and sign a false name. I was thinking of the promoter/manager who short-changed Peter. He had ample opportunity to see and remember Peter’s face, enough to describe it later to a sketch artist. Considering the anti-Spidey slant of the _Daily Bugle_, I’d be surprised if the promoter doesn’t go to the paper and say “Yeah, I’ve seen the guy without his mask. I’ll describe him to you, for the right price,” in an attempt to recoup some of the losses from the robbery. Peter’s only save might be that he’s so mild and ordinary looking that a sketch from the manager’s memory might be too vague to identify him. Of course, if he happens to spot Peter dropping off a roll of film, watch out! Anyway, it’s not a major plot point, but it does call into question the viability of maintaining any kind of comic-book “secret identity”. Now, if Peter was a gay cannibal serial killer, he could go for _years_ without being discovered… ---
**Author:** ![Cataclysm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Cataclysm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cataclysm)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2002, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/53 "2002-05-31T07:20:14Z")
Yup, I was thinking the manager guy from the wrestling as well. I mean, if someone let my $2900 get away (though technically it shouldn’t have been his money), then I think I would remember the face of that person. But I was also wondering, where on earth does Peter get that 2nd cool costume from? Did he make it? And if so, how? That always bugged me about the movie. Though, the beta costume was an absolutely crack up 😃 I laughed myself silly. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2002, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/54 "2002-05-31T07:48:21Z")
Part of the charm and longevity of the comic-book character is that you periodically see him sweating over a sewing maching patching up his costume, especially that cool-looking but apparantly high-maintenance underarm webbing. Plus, he uses his spider-powers to dodge the landlady. Classic. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2002, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/55 "2002-05-31T13:24:04Z")
I felt the movie wrestling costume was kinda a tribute to the comic’s Scarlet Spider outfit made from a sweat shirt and tights, but I probably am just seeing what I want to. ---
**Author:** ![Number](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/number/32/242_2.png) [@Number](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Number)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2002, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/56 "2002-05-31T13:45:52Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Arnold Winkelried_ > How do you know he didn’t sign as “Clark Kent”, “Cecil Adams” or “Bryan Ekers”? I don’t remember if he says his real name when he presents himself at the table, but even if he does, what are the odds that the employee (the woman who thinks he’s too puny to wrestle) would remember it? He didn’t sign anything. The lady read him the disclaimer aloud and he only agreed verbally. I remember thinking “yeah right, that’ll stand up in court” while watching it. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2002, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/57 "2002-05-31T16:49:05Z")
Is it just me, or did they change where his webs come from? In the movie, his web-spinning powers came along with the spider bite, and the webs came out of some sort of orifice on his wrist. But I seem to remember that in the cartoon version, he built a web-throwing device and strapped it to his wrists. And it was constantly running out at the worst possible moments. Also - not a single “website” joke in the entire flick! That amazed me. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2002, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/58 "2002-05-31T18:32:30Z")
I thought he built a device for webs in the comics, too. Did he have “super stength” in the comics? I thought he just had quick reactions, improved balance and stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2002, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/59 "2002-05-31T18:56:16Z")
Spidey’s normal comic powers include: Strength Spider Sense to alert him to nearby danger (it’s not usually very specific, but he can usually tell what direction it’s coming from) Leaping Superhuman agility (he can dodge bullets with agility and spidey-sense combined) Wall-crawling (but it’s more closely related to static electricity rather than microhairs on his fingertips) He built his web-shooters and keeps extra web cartridges on his belt along with his spider light (projects a “spidey symbol”, likes to use it as a flashlight or to surprise bad guys with their backs turned) and a minature camera for picking up extra freelance photo bucks. Damn, with a knowledge of Spidey like that it’s amazing the ladies don’t find me more attractive. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2002, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476/60 "2002-05-31T19:26:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Max Carnage \* > \*\* > Damn, with a knowledge of Spidey like that it’s amazing the ladies don’t find me more attractive. :rolleyes: \*\* There’s a joke in there, but I’m not brave enough to go for it. Thanks for the info. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiderman-the-movie-question-spoiler/107476.md?page=4)