# Spiritus Mundi

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 26, 2003, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273 "2003-04-26T05:09:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
**Page:** 23

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**Author:** ![TVAA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TVAA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVAA)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2003, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/441 "2003-05-13T05:18:24Z")

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Thanks for that latest post, **Ferrous**.

**Libertarian** : you were talking about the rational, reasoned, and wise sages who were telling me my argument is wrong?

[blinks]

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**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2003, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/442 "2003-05-13T05:33:22Z")

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Ah, a Frosted Grape Pop Tarts fan, eh **TVAA**? I should have known.

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**Author:** ![TVAA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TVAA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVAA)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2003, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/443 "2003-05-13T05:36:57Z")

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Do you understand any of the claims made in these threads, **Ferrous**?

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**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2003, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/444 "2003-05-13T05:46:56Z")

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Yes. But seeing how folks who understand them better than you or I have fared in attempting to debate you on them, I’m certainly not going to try.

(Like I’d waste my time debating a guy who prefers Frosted Grape to Cinnamon Brown Sugar anyway. :rolleyes:)

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**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2003, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/445 "2003-05-13T05:48:16Z")

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Crap. The one time I don’t preview…

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**Author:** ![TVAA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TVAA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVAA)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2003, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/446 "2003-05-13T06:26:03Z")

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Feel free to discuss the problems with my arguments, then.

Or would you rather waste more space with pastry flavor discussions?

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2003, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/447 "2003-05-13T06:35:00Z")

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Seems as good a thing to waste space on as any other.

If this thing gets stretched out for two more pages, it’ll jump from the seventh longest to the second longest pit thread ever.

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**Author:** ![TVAA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TVAA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVAA)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2003, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/448 "2003-05-13T06:58:49Z")

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What I found most amusing _and_ annoying was **Spiritus** ’ disregard for linked sources – he kept calling them “idiot summaries” but never produced any sources that actually said he was correct.

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**Author:** ![lucwarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@lucwarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lucwarm)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2003, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/449 "2003-05-13T13:34:09Z")

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Ya know, I think a lot of those “poptarts” are ending up under a bridge . . . SCORE!!!

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2003, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/450 "2003-05-13T13:37:27Z")

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My kids really like the S’Mores pop tarts.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2003, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/451 "2003-05-13T13:47:49Z")

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PopTarts popped up in Melbourne for a fairly brief (and remarkably unspectacular) time…but Vegemite on toast still wins for the preferred breakfast fare.

I feel sorry for those of you who have not had the privilege to sample such a delicacy.

😛  
(Oh, shite…sorry for the hijack…)

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**Author:** ![FranticMad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c68b51/32.png) [@FranticMad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FranticMad)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2003, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/452 "2003-05-13T13:56:12Z")

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{Sound of door opening}  
FM: Excuse me, is this “Hitting my head against a brick wall” lessons?  
JC: I told you once already.  
FM: W-what?  
JC: I said I told you once already.  
FM: No you didn’t  
JC: Yes I did  
FM: No you didn’t  
JC: Yes I did  
FM: No you didn’t  
JC: Did  
FM: Didn’t  
JC: Did  
FM: Didn’t!  
JC: Did, did, did, did, did  
FM: Did not! I just poked my head in to ask if this was “Hitting my head against a brick wall” lessons.  
JC: Oh!! You want “Hitting your own head against a brick wall” lessons.  
FM: Yes  
JC: That’s two doors down. This is the argument clinic.  
FM: Ah. I see the misunderstanding. You thought, that I was here for an argument…  
JC: No, I thought you were here for an argument.  
FM: I see, uh, no I want to hit my head against a brick wall  
JC: No you don’t  
FM: Yes I do  
JC: No you don’t  
FM: Yes I do  
JC: No no no  
FM: Yes yes yes  
JC: Look. If you wanted to be hitting your head against a brick wall, then why are you arguing with me?  
FM: I wasn’t arguing with you  
JC: Yes you were  
FM: No I wasn’t  
JC: Yeeessssss  
FM: Nooooooooo  
JC: Yessee yessee yes  
FM: Noey noey no  
JC: Face it. You were arguing with me.  
FM: This isn’t an argument.  
JC: Is it hitting your own head against a brick wall?  
FM: Yes it is…oh this is a pointless waste of time  
JC: No it isn’t  
FM: Goodbye  
JC: Good morning!  
{sound of door slamming shut}  
JC: As usual, not a single refutation.

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2003, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/453 "2003-05-13T14:30:41Z")

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**A** s I recall there was a much longer thread in MPSIMS.  
**B** ut should something like that be resurrected?  
**C** an we be sure we’re doing the right thing?

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