# Spiritus Mundi **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 26, 2003, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273 "2003-04-26T05:09:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![TVAA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TVAA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVAA)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/101 "2003-04-26T18:33:04Z")
Not at all – I merely demanded that you use them properly. What you never seemed to grasp is that Modal logic allows us to consider possibilities as real things. Just because something “exists in a possible world” in Modal logic does NOT mean it exists at all. It doesn’t even mean that it’s necessarily possible – the model can simply be wrong. You also never understood that it isn’t possible to show that there’s necessarily a being greater than all others. It might be the case that there’s no “greatest” in an ordered set – which as a self-educated “expert” in Modal logic and Set Theory, you should be well aware of. Finally, you never were able to explain how your supposed “proof of the greatest being” was in any way related to any meaningful claims about God (or a god). ---
**Author:** ![TVAA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TVAA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVAA)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/102 "2003-04-26T18:34:25Z")
Oh, before I forget: You’re the syphilitic love-child of Richard Nixon and Jack Chick. Your uvula has the distinct odor of rotten goat cheese and you have poor taste in ties. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/103 "2003-04-26T18:37:59Z")
As if I’m going to listen to you lecture me about modal logic, or anything else. 😃 You’ve already called Spiritus an idiot and worse. You therefore have the brain of a gnat. And because you dragged my sainted mother into this, you have the moral fiber of a cockroach. You’ve already done the digging. All that remains is for you to fall in. ---
**Author:** ![TVAA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TVAA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVAA)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/104 "2003-04-26T18:40:28Z")
He **is** an idiot, as \*_you_ are an idiot. Are you going to address any of the substance of this thread? Are you going to refute my evidence that **Spiritus** not only does not understand GIT but lied about his statements thereof? Or should I just insult you some more? (Your ancestors were tripe-brained dead-cows’-ankles-munchers.) ---
**Author:** ![TVAA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TVAA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVAA)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/105 "2003-04-26T18:41:30Z")
Drat, it completely ruins the effect when I misplace a text operator. Oh well… at least I didn’t do anything really stupid, like claim I could prove the existence of God or something. ---
**Author:** ![cainxinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7bcc69/32.png) [@cainxinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cainxinth)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/106 "2003-04-26T18:42:38Z")
What are you talking about I thought YOU are God? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/107 "2003-04-26T18:43:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TVAA \* > \*\*Oh, before I forget: > > You’re the syphilitic love-child of Richard Nixon and Jack Chick. Your uvula has the distinct odor of rotten goat cheese and you have poor taste in ties. \*\* You’re the rotted sphincter of a dead skunk. You’re the semi-liquid fart of a burrito eating Sumo wrestler. You’re the yellow puss dripping from a leperous penis. You’re the fetid bile oozing from Jeffrey Dahmer’s liver. And those are your good points. ---
**Author:** ![TVAA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TVAA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVAA)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/108 "2003-04-26T18:46:47Z")
That’s it, **Lib**. Ignore the substance and go straight the amusing personal attacks. Amusing, by the way. I may have to up my estimation of your creativity slightly. A shame your manifested IQ is still lower than your height in inches. And I’ve never claimed to be God, **cainxinth**. However, there _are_ people on these boards who claim to have made contact with him and received instruction as to metaphysics and philosophical truth – why don’t you ask them who God is? ---
**Author:** ![cainxinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7bcc69/32.png) [@cainxinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cainxinth)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/109 "2003-04-26T18:47:52Z")
Why bother? You have a secret clan of experts that know how the mind works. I don’t fool with underlings. ---
**Author:** ![TVAA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TVAA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVAA)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/110 "2003-04-26T18:50:03Z")
No, I don’t have that either. What I _do_ have is knowledge of Cognitive Psychology – the field that examines the abstract structure of the mind. As such, I’m familiar with a variety of the consequences of concept-embodiment. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/111 "2003-04-26T18:51:08Z")
> [@](#): > > That’s it, Lib. Ignore the substance and go straight the amusing personal attacks. Said the creature that called me “the syphilitic love-child of Richard Nixon and Jack Chick”. You’re such a pathetic dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![cainxinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7bcc69/32.png) [@cainxinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cainxinth)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/112 "2003-04-26T18:51:12Z")
See, this is why the internet is so great. In real life when you punch someone in the mouth they usually realize it. **TVAA** might keep this up for hours, days even. ---
**Author:** ![TVAA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TVAA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVAA)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/113 "2003-04-26T18:53:29Z")
Ah, but I dealt with the substance first, **Lib**. You’ve been ignoring it completely. Most of you have long since stopped actually thinking about what I’m saying and the implications thereof. You’re just reacting to my “tone”. I’m told dogs behave much the same way. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/114 "2003-04-26T18:58:28Z")
The “substance” was dealt with in the GD thread. Here, you’ve pitted Spiritus Mundi. If you can’t stand the heat, don’t start the threads. No one is going to wade through your crap and waste time correcting you. And now you’re calling everyone dogs. You’ve arrived at the unenviable station wherein no one cares what you think or what you say. And you will remain there because you are not capable of casting off either your ignorance or your arrogance. Who’s next on your list, Polycarp? ---
**Author:** ![FranticMad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c68b51/32.png) [@FranticMad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FranticMad)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/115 "2003-04-26T18:59:07Z")
Is today Saturday? ---
**Author:** ![TVAA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TVAA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVAA)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/116 "2003-04-26T18:59:32Z")
Yep. ---
**Author:** ![cainxinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7bcc69/32.png) [@cainxinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cainxinth)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/117 "2003-04-26T18:59:55Z")
Alright tell me this all a big joke and I’ve walked into the mother of all parody threads. TVAA, you can’t honestly believe that everyone on this very intelligent message board is an idiot while you are privy to the secrets of the universe. You were dropped repeatedly as a child, right? ---
**Author:** ![TVAA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TVAA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVAA)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/118 "2003-04-26T19:04:13Z")
The substance was _never_ dealt with. **Spiritus** never understood the basics of my argument in the first place; he continues to make grossly inaccurate statements about the nature of GIT; he dismisses arguments that he disagrees with as being “simply wrong” without explaining or justifying his position. He isn’t capable of understanding that the mechanism by which a program is run is also able to be represented as a program. No matter how we view it, it’s just a series of properties that evolve over time. This _is_ equivalent to taking a group of axioms and producing theorems. The axioms merely represent the intial configuration of the system, and the theorems its later stages. That’s why any UTM can simulate any other UTM. And that is why GIT limits the behavior of UTMs regardless of the programs they run. Their physical nature is a system GIT applies to. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/119 "2003-04-26T19:04:24Z")
wow, go away for a day and see what happens? I see a 3 page pit thread on my pal **Spiritis** , and wonder what the hell **that’s** about. after reading all 3 pages, I’m still wondering… ---
**Author:** ![TVAA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TVAA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVAA)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273/120 "2003-04-26T19:07:24Z")
No, I don’t believe all of these people are idiots. Only some of them are. And I don’t believe I have access to the secrets of the universe – at least, no more than basic knowledge of physics and mathematics. Of course, those _are_ “secrets of the universe”, so draw your own conclusions. I can determine the intelligence of posters only by the arguments they post – and many of individuals I’m complaining about have posted _very_ stupid things in the OTs. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spiritus-mundi/171273.md?page=7)