# Splitting the Difference--Dead Thread for The Split **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 18, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357 "2009-02-18T03:10:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/281 "2009-04-08T17:39:54Z")
> [@Telcontar](#): > > Well, I’m really confused by Jimmy’s vote to test Justin if Adrian II is a wolf. Having said that, the testerizer theory really does look right overall, so i would be voting to lynch adrian II right now. (also confused why zeriel didn’t die earlier, why tested people were allowed to build up, etc, but those just look like clear mistakes). Remind me to respond to this when the game’s over. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/282 "2009-04-08T18:38:27Z")
> [@DogMom](#): > > Is anyone in here but me hoping that FluidAdrian turns up to be town? Y’know, just to make the theory wrong? I do! Just alphabetic just seems wrong ;). I mean just because pedescribe posted **vermilion** in **yellow** , I started thinking what if the testerizer showed your true colors and so if not wolf the word is given the wrong color. Except it’s just that the browser doesn’t recognize the color name and you need to use the code. **pedescribe** , I just looked the name up on wikipedia and these are codes for the colors which don’t work by name (at least in Firefox): **[noparse][color=#007BA7]Cerulean[/noparse][/color]** **[noparse][color=#E34234]Vermilion[/noparse][/color]** ---
**Author:** ![DogMom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9c0ed/32.png) [@DogMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DogMom)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/283 "2009-04-08T18:40:42Z")
Wait, Vermilion is just a pleh shade of Orange? Huh. With a name like that it should be something more…dramatic. Violent Orange, or something. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/284 "2009-04-08T19:32:22Z")
I’m hoping there’s something more to it than reverse alphabetical, but I do want to see town win. Hmmm, so torn! ---
**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/285 "2009-04-08T20:23:30Z")
> [@DogMom](#): > > Wait, Vermilion is just a pleh shade of Orange? > > Huh. > > With a name like that it should be something more…dramatic. Violent Orange, or something. Phyllis Whitney wrote a book called Vermillion, in which Vermillion was both the hair-color of the heroine’s imaginary “evil” twin and the name of the twin. I don’t recall the hair-color of the heroine–but to her child’s mind when the twin was created, Vermillion was an exotic and exciting color, which went with the exciting life Vermillion lived, and the mousy heroine wished she lived. It’s romantic suspense, with a pinch of forbidden love for the heroine, and some ambiguity as to whether Vermillion was entirely made-up or not. I used to love it, but I’m not sure it would appeal to me as much now. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/286 "2009-04-09T16:50:04Z")
So as it turns out, Town has forgotten its own win conditions? Ranchers win if they outnumber farmers; farmers win if they outnumber ranchers. with 4 people left and the game not over, is this really that complicated? Does this mean that nobody on Town was even _thinking_ about this possibility? I’m sure it isn’t fair but as a wolf I’m so frustrated by stuff like this. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/287 "2009-04-09T16:52:25Z")
Still going? So that seems very strange to me. How many players are left? If there is one more Wolf, then something is up with the balance of the Town. An odd number of wolves would mean uneven numbers of Farmer/Ranchers, unless there is a non-Wolf that is neither farmer or rancher. I suppose there could be a Town player that is neither (survivor maybe?). If there are Two more Wolves, then shouldn’t the game be over? Who is still alive? ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/288 "2009-04-09T17:40:15Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > So as it turns out, Town has forgotten its own win conditions? > > Ranchers win if they outnumber farmers; farmers win if they outnumber ranchers. with 4 people left and the game not over, is this really that complicated? Does this mean that nobody on Town was even _thinking_ about this possibility? I’m sure it isn’t fair but as a wolf I’m so frustrated by stuff like this. Well, I was thinking about it, but i’m dead :-P. Actually I was assuming that in the sad event that there were as many farmers left as ranchers there would be a tie between farmers and ranchers after the last wolf died. I mean, how could there not be, if it’s really 2 and 2? No one will die tonight, the players will eventually wake to the fact that there are no more wolves and then…how do you lynch someone? And how would you even know who to lynch? The game would be at impasse. I suppose there could be a tie vote followed by a moderator coin flip, but that’s unsatisfying. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/289 "2009-04-09T17:52:28Z")
Oh, they have to choose whom to lynch now based on farmers/ranchers? Creepy! ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/290 "2009-04-09T17:55:13Z")
I was thinking about it too, same thoughts as Telcontar–the game is in a forced tie if it’s 2v2. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/291 "2009-04-09T17:59:31Z")
But not everyone knows who everybody else is, right? So they’ll want to agree on a consensus, so it’s pretty much the same deal as with a wolf. Don’t lose that bloodlust on me now! ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/292 "2009-04-09T18:35:14Z")
I thought we farmers were sunk. Looks like I was wrong about that! I’m glad that fluiddruid was a wolf. That makes so much more sense now. All the wolves were indeed playing the semi-lurking game (assuming indeed there is none left). Interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/293 "2009-04-09T18:49:55Z")
By Jove, I think they’ve got it! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/294 "2009-04-09T19:07:57Z")
> [@Eureka](#): > > Phyllis Whitney wrote a book called Vermillion, in which Vermillion was both the hair-color of the heroine’s imaginary “evil” twin and the name of the twin… Did they visit Vermilion (one “l”), Ohio? [Vermilion, Ohio - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion,_Ohio) ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/295 "2009-04-09T20:55:57Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > I was thinking about it too, same thoughts as Telcontar–the game is in a forced tie if it’s 2v2. Oh. I guess that makes sense. Maybe. That would explain why pedescribe dropped the night to 24 hours. It also makes sense from a beginning game balance point of view. But it’s an anti-climactic end to an otherwise interesting game. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/296 "2009-04-10T00:54:17Z")
I was seriously thinking Mahaloth was about to get mod-killed and lose for his faction if we’re right. ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/297 "2009-04-10T16:09:37Z")
> [@Werewolf (Mafia)--The Split \[Signups--In progress\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1590): > > The four of you emerged, all expecting to see another corpse. But none of you are dead. > > No-one died! > > It is day. > > Because of the low number of players, Day will end Tuesday Noon EDT, with testerizing happening Sunday Whenever My Plane Lands EDT Assuming it’s a 2-2 game, is there any claim (true or false) that has a decent chance of being believed and can lead to a better than coin flip chance of victory? Possibilities: False faction claim True faction claim Doctor claim Werewolves didn’t kill claim (as a wolf I might have done just to f’ things up) ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/298 "2009-04-10T16:11:53Z")
Test Someone. Vote No Lynch. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/299 "2009-04-15T20:18:11Z")
Hey, all. Game’s over, so I can come in here now. The town won collectively, so head over there to celebrate/discuss! Wolves, please tell us your strategy in the main thread! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/300 "2009-04-15T20:24:46Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Did they visit Vermilion (one “l”), Ohio? [Vermilion, Ohio - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion,_Ohio) Nope–the book was set in the desert southwest–Arizona I think. The color was chosen from a child’s watercolor paint set. Or maybe her artist father’s watercolors-- I don’t recall that detail. I recall entirely too much as it is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357.md?page=16)