# Splitting the Difference--Dead Thread for The Split **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 18, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357 "2009-02-18T03:10:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![DogMom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9c0ed/32.png) [@DogMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DogMom)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/121 "2009-03-05T16:49:08Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Ah, why is **Seeker** showing his role PM? The role PMs for ordinary roles were already posted by **pedescribe**. So they’re irrelevant. > > Unless he’s forgotten this and really is a townie. > > Or unless he’s just found the role PM in the thread and is a wolf and is hoping no one else realizes that the role PMs are avail. I was thinking the same thing! I’m betting that he’s sprouting hairs as we speak, and he’s hoping that nobody will notice the howling. I really prefer the usual rule at mafiascum: _No posting of role-PMs_. If I ever ran a game, that’d be one of my rules. Although in this case it may create some interesting controversy…especially if no one realizes that the role PMs are available. I expect either **Oredigger** , **Daphne** or **fluiddruid** will though. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/122 "2009-03-05T16:51:55Z")
Yep, here’s **Oredigger** on schedule. **Pedescribe** did make it pretty clear that role PMs weren’t important, so I’m not surprised he knew to pick up on it. ---
**Author:** ![DogMom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9c0ed/32.png) [@DogMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DogMom)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/123 "2009-03-05T16:52:51Z")
Aaaahahahahahaha, my post hadn’t been there even a MINUTE when Oredigger noticed…beautiful… ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/124 "2009-03-05T18:55:41Z")
Okay, I think **Seeker** ’s going to bite the big one toDay. I’m torn. Either he’s just really bad at strategy (confessing to be a wolf if you’re not is just asking for trouble) or he’s scum…AND bad at strategy. And I just have a hard time believing a wolf would say he was a wolf. But I also have a hard time a townie would say they were a wolf for absolutely no reason. If this were a game with many factions (like, wolves, town, cabal, undead) like we had one time, confessing to be a wolf would make some sense. But since there’s just wolf and town, I can’t see why anyone would say they were wolf. It’s just bad strategy all around. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/125 "2009-03-06T00:27:27Z")
Okay, now I’m starting to think that maybe Seeker’s not a wolf after all. Just because it’s the most profoundly stupid wolf strategy ever. Things aren’t looking good for town. Maybe they should just go ahead and lynch Telcontar. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/126 "2009-03-06T01:56:32Z")
The recap of **Telcontar** does look suspicious. If I were still in, I’d be tempted to lynch em. If Seeker wanted to mess with the wolves’ game, e would have done better to make eir “confession” post after the Testerizer. As it is, e’s either a wolf or acted in a very anti-Town way. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/127 "2009-03-06T05:39:36Z")
So, who’s psyched for the lynch? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/128 "2009-03-06T14:55:25Z")
> [@Werewolf (Mafia)--The Split \[Signups--In progress\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/987): > > “We seek him here, we seek him there > Those Frenchies seek him everywhere! > Is he in heaven? Or is he in hell? > That damned Elusive Pimpernel?” > > For some reason I’m getting a vision of you taunting us just like Percy was. Okay, this made me laugh. Killing **Seeker** is probably a bad idea. But if he is town, he had to have known his strategy would be very anti town b/c some people would want to lynch him just because “what if.” They probably should have gone with **Tel** and would have if **Seeker** hadn’t pulled that “I’m a werewolf” crap. ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/129 "2009-03-06T18:42:28Z")
If he didn’t know before, he certainly knows now! Wow. Just… wow. I completely had **Seeker** pegged as scum. Town really needs to get a correct lynch tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/130 "2009-03-06T22:06:49Z")
Um. Hi, guys! :smack: What? I thought it was a fascinating strategy. Shows what I get for thinking. I am totally convinced that **Elendil’s Heir** is a Werewolf. I hope Town wins. ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/131 "2009-03-08T01:12:45Z")
Damn, **Seeker** , I was busy patting myself on the back for IDing you as scum and then… you weren’t. Now I gotta question all my suspicions. Oh, and welcome to the graveyard! ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/132 "2009-03-08T15:18:37Z")
**Seeker** , I’m curious why you thought that was a fascinating strategy. It could have been usefu if a Scum faction was crippled by not knowing who was in their faction – but in standard Mafiascum, the Scum’s advantage is that they know everybody in their faction when the game starts. ETA: Have some nachos. ---
**Author:** ![\_Undecided\_Adrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/eada6e/32.png) [@\_Undecided\_Adrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_Undecided_Adrian)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/133 "2009-03-08T17:20:50Z")
So, hello, guys. **pedescribe** , is it possible to get spoilered, or does my curiosity have to wait? And everyone else, feel free to monday-morning-quarterback me, I’m new to this and willing to learn… I think I did pretty well, didn’t draw much suspicion and think my contributions were ok, even though they didn’t get much consideration especially in the beginning. Perhaps it was just the posting volume, but I’m just not that prolific a poster in general. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/134 "2009-03-08T17:27:08Z")
I think you did well, too, **Adrian**. It’s a fine line–you seem too innocuous, town won’t lynch you but the wolves will pick you off because you blend in. You seem too scummy, wolves won’t touch you but town will. I never thought of you as a candidate for a wolf, really. I’m also curious about why **Seeker** thought wolf claiming was a good idea. It just seemed really anti town to say you’re a wolf and then take it back because “it was a test!” ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/135 "2009-03-08T23:29:48Z")
As a vanilla town, you shouldn’t be trying to avoid attention. The best thing that can happen to you is to be killed. It gives the Town information, and it means that a power role(if they exist) was not killed. I know this is counter intuitive to what people would expect from a game like this, which is I think part of the problem Town is having right now. Most of the town players are thinking similarly, the “I don’t want to die” issue. But they shouldn’t be worried about that. On a similar note, they shouldn’t be wasting time trying to analyze why the wolves killed who they did. It’s not possible for the Town to figure it out really, and all it does is cause a distraction. Plus it plays directly into the above issue of “I don’t want to die”. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/136 "2009-03-09T02:30:48Z")
At this point, they’ll get one, hopefully by chance. Man, I bet everyone will schvitz if **Daphne** really is a wolf. She’s playing it really well if she is one. ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/137 "2009-03-09T02:34:29Z")
I’m curious to see if the town goes for **Zeriel** today instead of **Telcontar**. They’ve already figured out that it seems strange that somehow the wolves keep eating people who are of opposite alignment than the day’s lynch victim. Let’s see if they can put 2 and 2 together. One drawback, however, is that **Zeriel** could easily be lying - he’s not the wolf investigator, but he claimed that role in lieu of the _real_ wolf investigator. You know. Just to confuse the issue. ---
**Author:** ![DogMom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9c0ed/32.png) [@DogMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DogMom)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/138 "2009-03-09T12:53:42Z")
Heh, I bet they’re gonna get tired of **Zeriel** not giving them any answers real soon. “I’ve got results but you can’t have 'em if I don’t think they’re relevant” is gonna piss _someone_ off, sure nuff… ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/139 "2009-03-09T19:25:17Z")
> [@DogMom](#): > > Heh, I bet they’re gonna get tired of **Zeriel** not giving them any answers real soon. “I’ve got results but you can’t have 'em if I don’t think they’re relevant” is gonna piss _someone_ off, sure nuff… Yeah, that’s always lame. Has anyone here figured out that Testerizer yet? It’s bizarre. ---
**Author:** ![DogMom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9c0ed/32.png) [@DogMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DogMom)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357/140 "2009-03-10T11:39:44Z")
Nope, still wonderin about that. And it looks like the town is finally ignoring it completely and actually analyzing peoples’ posts and stuff. Hah. ETA: not that they/you didn’t before, but it was always in the light of “oh…well…until we get some good data from teh Testerizer, this’ll do” kind of thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/splitting-the-difference-dead-thread-for-the-split/486357.md?page=8)