# Spoil "Orphan" for me **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 29, 2009, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631 "2009-07-29T02:46:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/41 "2009-07-31T15:39:34Z")
> [@Risha](#): > > Harry Potter and The Hangover “ooogh…did I really start a Wizard Battle Royale and kill Voldemort last night?” ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/42 "2009-07-31T15:48:06Z")
That _500 Days of Summer_ is ranked at 88%, but doesn’t look like anything I’d ever want to sit through. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/43 "2009-07-31T15:48:38Z")
Oh darn. Why did I come back to this thread? I guess part of me wanted it spoiled. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/44 "2009-07-31T15:52:52Z")
> [@Rodgers01](#): > > You’re right - different strokes. Just be aware that when you dismiss people who go to a movie you’re not interested in by saying that they’re following a “herd mentality” and that **you** would _never_ “waste” your “precious time” on such low-rated movies, it doesn’t exactly come across as a “live and let live,” “different strokes” attitude. 🙂 Well naturally I think mine is the better way and if people were more like me the world would be a better place. 😉 Seriously, if people didn’t support Hollywood making so many crappy movies, they’d be forced to make better movies. How is that not a good thing? Except, I admit, for lovers of crappy movies? ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/45 "2009-07-31T15:56:23Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > That _500 Days of Summer_ is ranked at 88%, but doesn’t look like anything I’d ever want to sit through. You don’t have to go see _everything_ that is highly rated to have plenty of choices of highly regarded films over known garbage. But what’s not to like about Zooey Deschannel? ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/46 "2009-07-31T16:04:52Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > You say you don’t check reviews before seeing a film. How do you decide what you are going to see? Old movies: Directors and actors I like, recommendations from friends, subject matter I’m interested in, etc. New Movies: Same as above but in addition I have a sixth sense for telling whether or not a movie is good from the trailer. I can get a feel for it by the aesthetic, the marketing campaign, etc. I can’t remember the last time I went to the theatre and saw a non-comedy that I didn’t like. Comedies are the hardest to judge before you see them, but if it’s rated PG-13 it’s almost definitely going to be awful. In fact, with very very very few exceptions, PG-13 movies of any genre are awful. Of course, these days I’m far more interested in documentary than narrative film, so if I like the subject matter I’m almost certainly going to like the movie. There are exceptions, of course, but they’re rarer in non-fiction cinema. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/47 "2009-07-31T16:13:30Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > But what’s not to like about Zooey Deschannel? Not usually a stunningly accomplished actress. But she does have an adorable head tilt ;). In fact she’s adorable period - if properly cast, I think she works fine. This looks like the sort of film she’d be fine in and Jason Gordon-Levitt has proven unusually reliable when it comes to picking projects. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/48 "2009-07-31T16:19:12Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > You don’t have to go see _everything_ that is highly rated to have plenty of choices of highly regarded films over known garbage. But what’s not to like about Zooey Deschannel? I find her way too cutesy and affected and annoying. Plus, I’m just not into chick flicks. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/49 "2009-07-31T16:28:59Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > But what’s not to like about Zooey Deschannel? I went to see **The Happening** and was so bored that I ended up, as I work in ophthalmology, fixating on why on earth she had pinpoint pupils when no one else did. So I fear that any movie I see her in, I’ll spend half the film checking her pupil size. … You asked. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/50 "2009-07-31T16:48:32Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > I went to see **The Happening** and was so bored that I ended up, as I work in ophthalmology, fixating on why on earth she had pinpoint pupils when no one else did. So I fear that any movie I see her in, I’ll spend half the film checking her pupil size. > > … You asked. 😃 You went to see “The Happening”? See, right there, you fucked up. That movie was universally reviled by critics and audiences and a quick peek at Rotten Tomatoes (18% is extra-rotten) before heading out to the theater would have saved you the torture. I do like Zooey, but not _that_ much. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/51 "2009-07-31T16:49:56Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > You went to see “The Happening”? See, right there, you fucked up. That movie was universally reviled by critics and audiences and a quick peek at Rotten Tomatoes (18% is extra-rotten) before heading out to the theater would have saved you the torture. I do like Zooey, but not _that_ much. Hey, we were bored and saw it around opening weekend. My husband and I like bad SF movies as much as anyone else, we figured how bad could it be? (There’s the problem: boring-bad, not funny-bad.) ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/52 "2009-07-31T17:47:45Z")
Marky Mark pleading with a houseplant not to kill humanity was pretty funny. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/53 "2009-07-31T18:55:29Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Marky Mark pleading with a houseplant not to kill humanity was pretty funny. “Great talking to you, Leafy. Say Hi to your mother for me, K?” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/54 "2009-07-31T23:27:24Z")
I wonder if the working title was “Jon and Kate + (Not quite) 8.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/55 "2009-08-01T03:15:52Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > Jason Gordon-Levitt has proven unusually reliable when it comes to picking projects. Isn’t he in G.I. Joe? ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/56 "2009-08-01T03:52:08Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Isn’t he in G.I. Joe? Unusually reliable doesn’t equal _totally_ reliable :D. ---
**Author:** ![Steampunk\_Willie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@Steampunk\_Willie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steampunk_Willie)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/57 "2009-08-04T08:08:00Z")
> [@TWDuke](#): > > [12](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2265157/). > That would make quite a disturbing sequel, but we’d see the twist coming this time. Thanks for the answer, IMDB upsets my work computer on a physical and spiritual level so I can’t access it. Wouldn’t you see that movie in a heartbeat though? How often is the reveal at the end “The puppy did it!” or “I’ve been a puppy this whole time!”? I think most movies could be improved by a ‘puppy reveal’. Vader is Luke’s father? Shocking the first time but missing something. Vader reveals he is Luke’s father and pulls off his helmet to show a puppy underneath, _brilliant_. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Steampunk\_Willie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@Steampunk\_Willie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steampunk_Willie)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/58 "2009-08-04T08:17:00Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Isn’t he in G.I. Joe? Isn’t his face covered all or at least most of the time… ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631/59 "2009-08-16T18:17:42Z")
> [@Rodgers01](#): > > Am I really the first person in this thread to have actually seen the movie?? Anyway, yes, I can confirm from first-hand experience that the twist is in fact true, except that I don’t believe it’s specified that she was a prostitute, per se; she definitely liked to seduce older men by pretending to be a little girl, but there’s no indication that any money changed hands. > > The movie is also not as terrible as many people in this thread seem to expect! It’s definitely over the top and rather cliched in places (and some people will find the twist repellent), but it’s pretty scary and well-made overall. It’s got a respectable 43% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes (not great, but better than most horror flicks in particular) and Roger Ebert [gives it](http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090722/REVIEWS/907229993) 3 1/2 stars. (Yes, I know how much credence some people here give Ebert’s reviews, but still…) I didn’t think it was all that bad either. It wasn’t great, but it was a lot of fun. And there are way worse horror movies out there, too. I’m not going to bother to spoiler anything because of the request in the thread title, but I read that in the original script she worked as a prostitute for wealthy pedophiles. Also her father molested her but then gave her up when he got another lover and then told her that she’d never be a normal woman. So then she killed her father and his lover, or something. I can kind of see why they cut the backstory. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-orphan-for-me/504631.md?page=2)