# Spoil Sin City for me please

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**Created:** [May 27, 2014, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-sin-city-for-me-please/689362 "2014-05-27T11:47:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-sin-city-for-me-please/689362/1 "2014-05-27T11:47:25Z")

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My husband, not being the most considerate of blokes, put on the TV at 5 o’clock in the morning and was watching this movie. I woke up in the part where the cop was driving around and talking with the dead cop (I don’t know any of the character’s names-- except for Nancy).

Any ways. . . the final scene has Rory from the Gilmore girls talking to her mom after getting her shot arm fixed. She gets into the elevator and James Franco is in it. Rory appears frightened and the movie ends.

Who was Franco and why was Rory afraid of him?

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-sin-city-for-me-please/689362/2 "2014-05-27T11:51:13Z")

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Here is an excerpt from the plot as found in Wikipedia.

> **[Sin City (film)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_City_%28film%29)**
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> Sin City (also known as Frank Miller's Sin City) is a 2005 American neo-noir crime anthology film produced and directed by Robert Rodriguez and Frank Miller. It is based on Miller's graphic novel of the same name.
> Much of the film is based on the first, third, and fourth books in Miller's original comic series. The Hard Goodbye is about an ex-convict who embarks on a rampage in search of his one-time sweetheart's killer. The Big Fat Kill follows a private investigator who gets caught in a str...

“An injured Becky departs from a hospital, talking on a cell phone with her mother. In the elevator she encounters The Salesman, dressed as a doctor. He offers her a cigarette, calling her by name, and she abruptly ends the call with her mother.”

I cannot guarantee you this is correct since I never saw the movie. But, I have found the plot summaries for movies on Wikipedia are generally very accurate and I have never found any reason to doubt them.

Strangely enough, IMDB does not give very good plot summaries. It is the one area in which Wikipedia seems to do a better job than IMDB.

I hope that gives you the info you need.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-sin-city-for-me-please/689362/3 "2014-05-27T11:53:42Z")

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**Charles** , I saw that. That is the scene I just described. Wiki did supply names but does not explain the scene at all. Why was “Becky” frightened?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-sin-city-for-me-please/689362/4 "2014-05-27T12:16:41Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> **Charles** , I saw that. That is the scene I just described. Wiki did supply names but does not explain the scene at all. Why was “Becky” frightened?

At the beginning of the movie, Josh Hartnett (not James Franco), who is a hitman, kills a woman. She might be frightened because she knows he’s a hitman, and she recently betrayed a group of powerful and vengeful prostitutes (IIRC).

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-sin-city-for-me-please/689362/5 "2014-05-27T13:04:09Z")

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Ah! Thanks.

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**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-sin-city-for-me-please/689362/6 "2014-05-27T14:14:35Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> At the beginning of the movie, Josh Hartnett (not James Franco), who is a hitman, kills a woman. She might be frightened because she knows he’s a hitman, and she recently betrayed a group of powerful and vengeful prostitutes (IIRC).

This sums it up, and yeah, not James Franco.

My version

Very long story short, there is an area of town run by hookers called Old Town. Through some wacky shenanigans, the hookers accidentally kill a cop (Jackie Boy - Benicio Del Torro). The elevator guy helps them get rid of the body. A whole lot of other shit happens, involving ninjas, talking corpses, an Irish hit squad, and an exploding severed head. They find out that Becky (Rory from the Gilmore Girls) had betrayed them. The end scene is the non-James Franco guy in the elevator ready to take her out for the betrayal.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-sin-city-for-me-please/689362/7 "2014-05-27T15:13:46Z")

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I wasn’t sure if Not Franco was a bad guy because there was no splash of color on him. I noticed all the really terrible guys had color-slashed. Becky and her blue eyes, the prosecutor’s son was yellow. Big Black Dude has an orange eye. . …

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**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-sin-city-for-me-please/689362/8 "2014-05-27T15:44:53Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> I wasn’t sure if Not Franco was a bad guy because there was no splash of color on him. I noticed all the really terrible guys had color-slashed. Becky and her blue eyes, the prosecutor’s son was yellow. Big Black Dude has an orange eye. . …

Not a bad guy when he is getting rid of a traitor. And in Sin City’s universe, just being an assassin (or prostitute, or some other illegal profession) is not considered “bad”. It’s how they behave towards others that determines their guilt.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-sin-city-for-me-please/689362/9 "2014-05-27T18:03:44Z")

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> [@KarlGrenze](#):
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> Not a bad guy when he is getting rid of a traitor. And in Sin City’s universe, just being an assassin (or prostitute, or some other illegal profession) is not considered “bad”. It’s how they behave towards others that determines their guilt.

And FWIW, he seems to fall in love with them a little before he kills them.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-sin-city-for-me-please/689362/10 "2014-05-27T18:38:10Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> I wasn’t sure if Not Franco was a bad guy because there was no splash of color on him. I noticed all the really terrible guys had color-slashed. Becky and her blue eyes, the prosecutor’s son was yellow. Big Black Dude has an orange eye. . …

Dwight’s (Clive Owen) character had a red splash of color on his sneakers. While bad-ass and possibly a bit unbalanced, he was actually a good guy.  
The scene with “The Man” (Josh Hartnett ) would make more sense if you saw the beginning. He book-ends the film with the opening scene \*\*iiandyiiii \*\*described. IIRC, the woman at the beginning hired him to kill her rather than endure a more…creative…death.

Not to get too spoiler-y, but the Sin City basically consists of several intertwining vignettes:  
Marv vs the Roark family of politically connected psychos seeking revenge for the death of Goldie, an Old Town prostitute.  
Hartigan (Willis) vs the Yellow Bastard (Stahl) to protect Nancy (Alba) from the Roark family.  
Dwight (Owen) and the Old Town prostitutes vs the mob trying to prevent a war with the cops over the death of Jackie Boy, a corrupt “hero cop”.  
The Salesman who serves as a prologue and epilogue to the film.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-sin-city-for-me-please/689362/11 "2014-05-27T21:10:08Z")

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I thought they missed out on a good commercial tie-in when they didn’t make the Sin City Jackie Boy Pez dispenser. It’s be all grey and black, and would have a pistol slide in the forehead.  
It’s go great with the John Cleese Harry Potter Nearly Headless Nick Pez Dispenser. They could’ve done an entire line of these, if they could come up with a few more.
