# Spoil Stargate SG-1 for me **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 4, 2004, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-stargate-sg-1-for-me/258260 "2004-08-04T10:16:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-stargate-sg-1-for-me/258260/21 "2004-08-05T05:03:48Z")
There were two gates. One was destroyed. Now there’s only one. The original Cheyene Mountain one was transported about the Asgard ship so that SG-1 could escape. The ship crashed into the ocean and sank. The Russians retrieved it to use for their own Stargate program. The U.S. got the Antarctic gate out of storage and installed it in Cheyene Mountain to replace the lost one. One of the badguys directed some sort of energy beam through the (replacement) Cheyene Mountain gate to cause an overload which would destroy Earth. SG-1 tossed it into space where it exploded harmlessly. The US then made some sort of deal with the Russians which IIRC involved money and use of the gate by Russian teams. This deal gave the U.S. possession and control of the gate and they installed it back in Cheyene Mountain. End of story. There is now ONE gate one Earth. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-stargate-sg-1-for-me/258260/22 "2004-08-05T05:06:08Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > …There is now ONE gate one Earth. That should have said "There is now ONE gate _on_ Earth. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-stargate-sg-1-for-me/258260/23 "2004-08-05T05:57:06Z")
So, I had my chronology wrong, then - The NID gate came before the Russian gate? Fair enough. ---
**Author:** ![BytopianDream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de0a6/32.png) [@BytopianDream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BytopianDream)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-stargate-sg-1-for-me/258260/24 "2004-08-05T14:18:06Z")
If you are a fan enough to want to watch the whole thing, might I suggest buying the seasons? There are reasonable at $50 US per season. I have the first six and waiting for the 7th. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-stargate-sg-1-for-me/258260/25 "2004-08-05T15:55:30Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > So, I had my chronology wrong, then - The NID gate came before the Russian gate? > > Fair enough. I forgot about the whole business with the NID. A more complete chronology would be as as follows: There was originally believed to be only one gate. The second gate was found in Antarctica. It was put into storage (IIRC, in area 51). The NID somehow got possesion of the Antarctic gate and were abusing it. SG-1 discovered this, stormed their facility, took possesion of it, and put it back into storage. The original Cheyene Mountain gate was transported about the Asgard ship so that SG-1 could escape. The ship crashed into the ocean and sank. The Russians retrieved it to use for their own Stargate program. The U.S. got the Antarctic gate out of storage and installed it in Cheyene Mountain to replace the lost one. One of the badguys directed some sort of energy beam through the (replacement) Cheyene Mountain gate to cause an overload which would destroy Earth. SG-1 tossed it into space where it exploded harmlessly. The US then made some sort of deal with the Russians which IIRC involved money and use of the gate by Russian teams. This deal gave the U.S. possession and control of the gate and they installed it back in Cheyene Mountain. End of story. There is now ONE gate on Earth (barring, of course, any unforseen discoveries) and it’s in Cheyene Mountain. I’m pretty sure that this is right but if anyone knows differently please correct me. Does anyone have a cite which confirms or denies my chronology? ---
**Author:** ![BytopianDream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de0a6/32.png) [@BytopianDream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BytopianDream)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-stargate-sg-1-for-me/258260/26 "2004-08-05T20:09:25Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I forgot about the whole business with the NID. A more complete chronology would be as as follows: > > There was originally believed to be only one gate. > > The second gate was found in Antarctica. It was put into storage (IIRC, in area 51). > > The NID somehow got possesion of the Antarctic gate and were abusing it. SG-1 discovered this, stormed their facility, took possesion of it, and put it back into storage. > > The original Cheyene Mountain gate was transported about the Asgard ship so that SG-1 could escape. The ship crashed into the ocean and sank. The Russians retrieved it to use for their own Stargate program. > > The U.S. got the Antarctic gate out of storage and installed it in Cheyene Mountain to replace the lost one. > > One of the badguys directed some sort of energy beam through the (replacement) Cheyene Mountain gate to cause an overload which would destroy Earth. SG-1 tossed it into space where it exploded harmlessly. > > The US then made some sort of deal with the Russians which IIRC involved money and use of the gate by Russian teams. This deal gave the U.S. possession and control of the gate and they installed it back in Cheyene Mountain. End of story. > > There is now ONE gate on Earth (barring, of course, any unforseen discoveries) and it’s in Cheyene Mountain. > > I’m pretty sure that this is right but if anyone knows differently please correct me. Does anyone have a cite which confirms or denies my chronology? Looks good to me. I would add that Anubis attempted to destroy the gate while Teal’c was trapped inside the gate. The Russian gave SG-1 their DHD (Dial Home Device) as part of the deal. Teal’c got out. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-stargate-sg-1-for-me/258260/27 "2004-08-05T20:28:23Z")
> [@](#): > > T’ealc grows hair. :eek: I’ve been away from the series for a while. This is the most shocking thing I’ve read here in a while. ---
**Author:** ![MikeG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikeg/32/4329_2.png) [@MikeG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeG)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-stargate-sg-1-for-me/258260/28 "2004-08-05T22:01:13Z")
Actually the Russians lent SGC the DHD after a ton of acrimonious negotiations between Daniel and the Russian general who is always blaming SGC when his guys get whacked. In the end they lent it to SGC and when it was used to rescue Teal’c, the feedback blew up the DHD, whoopsie Russkies, our bad:) ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-stargate-sg-1-for-me/258260/29 "2004-08-06T02:11:37Z")
**MikeG** , any idea where that fits into my timeline? ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-stargate-sg-1-for-me/258260/30 "2004-08-06T03:01:57Z")
What happened to the Antarctic gate’s DHD? I seem to remember it having one in Area 51. Did I miss the episode where they lost it, or is it still around somewhere, or what? ---
**Author:** ![Swede\_Hollow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Swede\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swede_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-stargate-sg-1-for-me/258260/31 "2004-08-08T01:51:44Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > What happened to the Antarctic gate’s DHD? I seem to remember it having one in Area 51. Did I miss the episode where they lost it, or is it still around somewhere, or what? I just watched an episode in Season 6 (I think Episode 4: _Frozen_) that said that the DHD’s have a finite lifespan for their power systems and the one in Atlantis was millions of years old and finally ran out of power. They assumed it was a used one from another planet when a new stargate had to be installed on earth when the original one got buried in Egypt (or wherever). So there are no useable DHD’s on earth. ---
**Author:** ![Jake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-stargate-sg-1-for-me/258260/32 "2004-10-02T02:03:03Z")
> [@BraheSilver](#): > > Setup for Atlantis (and the last few eps of the last SG1 season): > > On some planet, the team runs into another one of the head-sucker information machines. The last time they’d run into one it grabbed O’Neill, crammed the knowledge of the Ancients into his brain, and eventually led to first contact with the Asgard (to remove said knowledge before it overloaded O’Neill’s brain and killed him). A few moments after finding this new one, the team is under attack by Go’auld. Rather than let it fall into enemy hands, O’Neill sticks his head in it again then destroys it before escaping through the gate. > > Problem: The Asgard aren’t coming to the rescue this time. They’re spread incredibly thin fighting the Replicators, and nobody’s answering the SGC’s calls. While O’Neill can still communicate in English Daniel grills him on possible locations of the Lost City. > > Another problem: Anubis is heading for Earth with his super ultra mega mothership, and with his fallen Ascended powers and super soldiers is a major threat not just to Earth but to everything in the galaxy. > > O’Neill loses the capability of speech, but dials an unknown address into the gate. Following him, the team find what appears to be a deserted Ancient outpost. O’Neill pulls something (the first appearance of the Z(ed)PM, seen in Atlantis and some of the recent eps of SG1) out of the floor and messes around with some sort of map. It pinpoints the location of the Lost City: Earth! > > Everybody heads back to Earth. There’s no Lost City, but O’Neill uncovers another outpost in Antarctica. He pulls something out of the floor and replaces it with the one he took from the first outpost, then sits in a glowy chair. This activates the Ancient Defense Mechanism, which blows seventeen kinds of crap out of Anubis (see: the drone that went nuts in the opening moments of the pilot Atlantis episode). O’Neill unplugs himself from the chair and puts himself in suspended animation before the Ancient knowledge makes his head a splode. > > All these fireworks don’t go unnoticed by the international community, which is why the Stargate program had to be revealed to all these other governments. They’re naturally miffed and demand to be part of the 'Gate program, and they can’t all be ignored like the Russians. > > Carter and T’ealc make their way to the last known location of the Replicators (the ‘homeworld’ which had been trapped in a time-dilation device to imprision them for a few thousand years until something better could be figured out to deal with them) to look for the Asgard in order to save O’Neill. Sure enough, Thor’s there but didn’t pick up all the SGC distress calls because the time-dilation was messing with his communications. The Replicators have mucked around with the time doohicky and it’s a) failed to work and b) made them even more powerful. Thor beams O’Neill aboard and hooks him up to his ship’s computer for a moment in order to talk with him without killing him. O’Neill in his hyperintelligent state whips up a funky raygun prototype, but Thor has to remove the Ancient knowledge from O’Neill’s brain before he can explain what it is. Five (the humanoid Replicator with feelings) feels betrayed by Carter (because he was) and captures her while the Reps attack Thor’s ship. O’Neill’s funky ray turns out to be a Replicator blaster (it reduces them to their component Lego blocks and makes those inert so they can’t combine again), and he rescues Sam from Five’s clutches. Thor adapts O’Neill’s funky ray into a shipboard cannon, and cleanses an Asgard colony of Replicators. Five escapes and builds a naked Carter clone, promising sweet sweet revenge. > > While all this was going on, back at the SGC Hammond was replaced by Weir (a civilian! Egad!). It turns out Hammond was promoted to the Pentagon, and Weir’s taking his place. She and Daniel completely fail to create a treaty with some of the remaining Go’auld System Lords concerning the power vacuum left by Anubis’s death. Lord Yu is in particular tricky; he’s refused to change hosts for so long that he’s going senile, but nobody dares mention it. > > Weir also fails to inspire any confidence as a leader in the SGC. She’s phased out in the last episode of last season; O’Neill’s promoted to Brigadier General. Weir gets to lead the Atlantis team; O’Neill takes over the SGC operations. The first thing O’Neill does is promote Carter to Colonel and make her team leader of SG1. > > Good news: The System Lords all fear Earth because we took out Anubis. Bad news: we don’t have the juice to fire the defenses again, so it’s a huge bluff. > > Atlantis _was_ on Earth, but now it’s not. The Ancients packed up and left thousands of years ago, but they left a forwarding address. This address is in a far-off galaxy; so far that the power requirements of Gate travel mean that they’ll only get one shot to open a link there. > > T’ealc grows hair. Nobody explains why it’s a different color from the chin thing he had a few years ago. Thanks, that was something I was curious about. Very clear. Jake ---
**Author:** ![Jake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-stargate-sg-1-for-me/258260/33 "2004-10-02T02:05:58Z")
PS A NAKED Captain Carter?? Where? When?? You should not raise my “eyebrows” Amanda Tapping is SO there. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-stargate-sg-1-for-me/258260.md?page=1)