# Spoil the Hell Out Of Fallout 3 For Me

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 15, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103 "2010-02-15T19:32:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/41 "2010-02-18T05:09:23Z")

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Save often. ;p If you have a save before the encounter then, if you really want him, go back to that one. It really doesn’t effect the game that much to have him or not, IMHO. Generally I found him more of trouble than he was worth, but you can always just tell him to wait for you at home and he will do that.

(ETA: Makes me want to reload the game and do some raider killin’. Maybe when I finish playing through the DLC’s for Dragon Age and if the new Empire expansion isn’t out yet I’ll fire it back up and roam about some more. I really miss cappin’ me some raider chicks out in the wasteland…)

-XT

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/42 "2010-02-18T05:16:25Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> I found him in Scrapyard. We found a couple of raiders the very next encounter. I took out one and Dogmeat wanted to get the other. Dogmeat lunged for the other Raider when I was in VATS and, well, he caught an autoshotty right across the spine.

Yeah, if you shot him dead, than… well… he’s dogmeat. 😃

You’ll need the aforementioned high level perk to get him back short of reloading, but I have to agree with **xtisme** , frankly he’s not that useful. Some of the companions are I think, (the brotherhood paladin is very good, as is Fawkes), but Dogmeat tends to die easily anyway.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/43 "2010-02-18T05:20:19Z")

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I had Fawks until I did the Point Lookout DLC and then he wandered off somewhere and I never bothered to get him back. I think he went to the Ghoul underground, but at that point I really didn’t need him, even with the Mutant mod that upped their spawn rate and density.

-XT

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/44 "2010-02-18T13:43:49Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> I expected more mutants roaming the countryside.

You’re probably not high enough in level yet. Though I’m level 14 right now, and there aren’t a ton. There’s a lot more on the Mall. I’m seeing a lot more Enclave these days.

I need to go retrieve Dogmeat - he’s at Vault 101 right now. I think I just want to park him at home. Can I still activate him now that I have Paladin Cross?

I met Gary last night. Fun times\* were had by all.

And by “fun times” I of course mean “headshots”. And by “all” I mean “Gary”.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/45 "2010-02-18T15:08:05Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> I need to go retrieve Dogmeat - he’s at Vault 101 right now. I think I just want to park him at home. Can I still activate him now that I have Paladin Cross?

Yes, you can. At any one time you can have one follower, plus Dogmeat, plus any mod-added followers.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/46 "2010-02-18T15:15:20Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> You’re probably not high enough in level yet. Though I’m level 14 right now, and there aren’t a ton. There’s a lot more on the Mall. I’m seeing a lot more Enclave these days.
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> I need to go retrieve Dogmeat - he’s at Vault 101 right now. I think I just want to park him at home. Can I still activate him now that I have Paladin Cross?
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> I met Gary last night. Fun times\* were had by all.
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> And by “fun times” I of course mean “headshots”. And by “all” I mean “Gary”.

The Mall was fun. Man, I started going the wrong way and headed towards the Capitol Building when I was looking for the Museum of Technology, so I had extra mutants to kill.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/47 "2010-02-18T15:19:27Z")

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Oh, one thing no one has mentioned - bobbleheads. If you’re looking to powerlevel, then getting as many bobbleheads as you can as soon as you can is going to really help. The earliest one to get (apart from the one in Vault 101) is the Intelligence one down in Rivet City, since Intelligence increases the number of skills you get every time you level up. There are guides on [gamefaqs.com](http://gamefaqs.com) that will lead you through them.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/48 "2010-02-18T15:29:31Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Oh, one thing no one has mentioned - bobbleheads. If you’re looking to powerlevel, then getting as many bobbleheads as you can as soon as you can is going to really help. The earliest one to get (apart from the one in Vault 101) is the Intelligence one down in Rivet City, since Intelligence increases the number of skills you get every time you level up. There are guides on [gamefaqs.com](http://gamefaqs.com) that will lead you through them.

Good call. I did find the one in the Vault and I have another one (Luck, I believe). I’ll have to find a list and go hunting.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/49 "2010-02-18T15:32:01Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> Good call. I did find the one in the Vault and I have another one (Luck, I believe). I’ll have to find a list and go hunting.

Another good one to find early is the Strength one in Lucas Simm’s house. More strength means you can carry more loot, which means you can buy more stuff.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/50 "2010-02-18T15:36:24Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> Good call. I did find the one in the Vault and I have another one (Luck, I believe). I’ll have to find a list and go hunting.

Also - stop reading books until you get the perk that doubles the bonus. It REALLY adds up.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/51 "2010-02-18T15:37:45Z")

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Have you disabled/blown up Megaton yet? If not, you can get a whole lot of loot if you agree to blow it up, but instead kill Tenpenny (make sure to headshot him) and everyone else there, then go back and disable it.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/52 "2010-02-18T16:05:04Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Have you disabled/blown up Megaton yet? If not, you can get a whole lot of loot if you agree to blow it up, but instead kill Tenpenny (make sure to headshot him) and everyone else there, then go back and disable it.

I don’t know what a Tenpenny is, but if I see whoever that is, they’re dead.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/53 "2010-02-18T16:06:42Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Also - stop reading books until you get the perk that doubles the bonus. It REALLY adds up.

You know, I was wondering how that worked. I had already read a bunch of books, then I see that perk becoming available, and I was sad that I didn’t know about if beforehand. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have read a thing.

Hm… I could just restart. I’ll play it like Dragon Age with 6 savefiles and never beating the game on any of them.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/54 "2010-02-18T16:17:38Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> You know, I was wondering how that worked. I had already read a bunch of books, then I see that perk becoming available, and I was sad that I didn’t know about if beforehand. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have read a thing.

What level are you? There are a lot of books, so you’re not really crippling your character if you haven’t done it already.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/55 "2010-02-18T16:27:46Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> You know, I was wondering how that worked. I had already read a bunch of books, then I see that perk becoming available, and I was sad that I didn’t know about if beforehand. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have read a thing.
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> Hm… I could just restart. I’ll play it like Dragon Age with 6 savefiles and never beating the game on any of them.

What’s your starting INT? Between a starting INT of 7+, the books, the bobbleheads and other perks that increase skills as side benefits, you don’t even need the book perk.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/56 "2010-02-18T16:36:44Z")

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The mutants tend to stick to DC and the other urban areas–farther out in the wasteland you don’t see so many. Lots of radscorpions though.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/57 "2010-02-18T16:48:40Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> What level are you? There are a lot of books, so you’re not really crippling your character if you haven’t done it already.

8 almost 9?

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> What’s your starting INT? Between a starting INT of 7+, the books, the bobbleheads and other perks that increase skills as side benefits, you don’t even need the book perk.

[I…I don’t recall](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/bridgekeeper.jpg). Good point, though.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/59 "2010-02-18T17:56:07Z")

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There are lots of guides, but I agree that getting the bobble heads is important (and fun too). The ones I remember are:

Megaton: Strength  
Rivet City: Intelligence  
Raven Rock: (I think) Energy Weapons BH  
Fort Constantine: Big Guns  
Death Claw Sanctuary: Endurance  
Republic of Dave: Perception  
Arafu: (don’t remember which one, it’s in the old guys house)  
National Guard Depot: Small Guns (also, the MIRV is in there too…keep it for your collection, don’t try and use it in combat :p)  
Yao Guai Sanctuary: Sneak  
Evergreen Mills: Barter  
Dunwich Building: Melee Weapons (don’t do this one until after you do Point Lookout)  
Rockopolis: (don’t remember which one, it’s by the radio guys body though)

There are a few more that I don’t remember where I got them. At one point in the game I just decided I wanted all the Bobble Heads and to explore every site on the map (including going back and exploring all the sites on the DLC maps), so I spent a few days just going and getting them all. The vault mod I have has a really cool bobble head display system that is right next to my weapons and armor display, so it was cool when I finally got them all. Even without the mod, it will be nice whey you have the display at your house in Megaton fully populated…and it really beefs up your character too.

-XT

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoil-the-hell-out-of-fallout-3-for-me/529103/60 "2010-02-18T18:04:55Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> There are lots of guides, but I agree that getting the bobble heads is important (and fun too). The ones I remember are:
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> Megaton: Strength  
> Rivet City: Intelligence  
> Raven Rock: (I think) Energy Weapons BH  
> Fort Constantine: Big Guns  
> Death Claw Sanctuary: Endurance  
> Republic of Dave: Perception  
> Arafu: (don’t remember which one, it’s in the old guys house)  
> National Guard Depot: Small Guns (also, the MIRV is in there too…keep it for your collection, don’t try and use it in combat :p)  
> Yao Guai Sanctuary: Sneak  
> Evergreen Mills: Barter  
> Dunwich Building: Melee Weapons (don’t do this one until after you do Point Lookout)  
> Rockopolis: (don’t remember which one, it’s by the radio guys body though)
> 
> There are a few more that I don’t remember where I got them. At one point in the game I just decided I wanted all the Bobble Heads and to explore every site on the map (including going back and exploring all the sites on the DLC maps), so I spent a few days just going and getting them all. The vault mod I have has a really cool bobble head display system that is right next to my weapons and armor display, so it was cool when I finally got them all. Even without the mod, it will be nice whey you have the display at your house in Megaton fully populated…and it really beefs up your character too.
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> -XT

I saw something about the third floor of the National Guard building. I got there accidentally, tried to get up in the area, but couldn’t make it. I figure I’ll try again when it becomes part of the main quest or what not.

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