# \*\*\*SPOILER!\*\*\* Harry Potter IV \*\*\*SPOILER!\*\*\* **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 9, 2000, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoiler-harry-potter-iv-spoiler/25049 "2000-07-09T20:08:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2000, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoiler-harry-potter-iv-spoiler/25049/61 "2000-07-26T20:50:57Z")
Surel: As I recall, Couch jr as Moony took is from Harry so CJ would know who was going where. I suspect when Dumbledore perused CJ’s suitcase or trunk or whatever he found that later and will give it back to Harry at the beginning or something of book V. All this business about being a muggle or a pureblood or mudblood and such . . . if there’s one muggle in your direct ancestry, you’re not pureblood. Thus Harry is a mudblood, as Lily was part muggle, and if Hermione isn’t I don’t know who is. The Malfoys make a big deal about pure wizarding blood . . . though theirs seems to be bad blood as much as anything else. Just MHO as I remember it described in the books. ---
**Author:** ![Paradocs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Paradocs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paradocs)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2000, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoiler-harry-potter-iv-spoiler/25049/62 "2000-07-27T00:53:09Z")
😃 [http://www.theonion.com/onion3625/harry\_potter.html](http://www.theonion.com/onion3625/harry_potter.html) ---
**Author:** ![Surgoshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Surgoshan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surgoshan)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2000, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoiler-harry-potter-iv-spoiler/25049/63 "2000-07-27T02:20:19Z")
That is the funniest damn article they’ve written. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoiler-harry-potter-iv-spoiler/25049/64 "2000-07-28T04:10:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Yue Han \* > \*\*To clarify what Balance said about the Riddles (it was dead on, but maybe not perfectly clear), in Potter 2 we discover that Voldemort’s real name is Tom Marvolo Riddle. His father was a Muggle named Tom Riddle that deserted his (V’s) mother when he (V’s dad) found out she was a witch. (Marvolo was his grandfather on his mother’s side, though that’s irrelevant.)–John \*\* Bite your tongue! Nothing is irrelevant in the HP universe!. ---
**Author:** ![Yue\_Han](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/eada6e/32.png) [@Yue\_Han](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yue_Han)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoiler-harry-potter-iv-spoiler/25049/65 "2000-07-28T04:37:00Z")
D’oh. Obviously, I meant irrelevant in the context of explaining that particular bit of data. In the long term, it will probably be crucial–remember how irrelevant who Hagrid borrowed the bike from seemed?\* I can’t get the ‘Percy screws up bad’ scenario out of my head. I’ve worked out an entire scene with the rest of the family turning their back on him because he, like Fudge, won’t accept the seriousness of the situation. I won’t post at length about it, (oh you lucky people), but the hand with his name on it on the grandfather clock gets pulled off and given to him. Not an attempt to guess the future of the series, just a bit of imaginary fun. –John \*And because I don’t want to post again later to explain that, in Potter1 Hagrid mentions in passing that he borrowed a flying motorcycle from Sirius Black-- who turns out to be a very important character in Potter3. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2000, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoiler-harry-potter-iv-spoiler/25049/66 "2000-07-29T05:09:32Z")
Hey, what happened to Crookshanks? ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2000, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoiler-harry-potter-iv-spoiler/25049/67 "2000-07-29T06:17:25Z")
I don’t know, what _did_ happen to Crookshanks? :: confused :: ---
**Author:** ![Yue\_Han](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/eada6e/32.png) [@Yue\_Han](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yue_Han)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2000, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoiler-harry-potter-iv-spoiler/25049/68 "2000-07-29T06:22:48Z")
We last see Crookshanks, alive and well, on page 726 on Potter4. > [@](#): > > …and Crookshanks was curled up in a spare seat like a large, furry ginger cushion. So I guess he’s fine. (BTW, this answer would have come a lot sooner, but there was a small, furry grey cushion curled up in my lab that kept me from going to get the book.) –John ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2000, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoiler-harry-potter-iv-spoiler/25049/69 "2000-07-30T04:46:43Z")
I was rereading the first three books, and stumbled into a plot hole; in book 3 Harry is given the Marauder’s Map by the Weasley twins. But if this map indeed shows every hidden passageway in Hogwart’s, why didn’t it show Fred and George the entrance to the Chamber of Secrets in book 2? ---
**Author:** ![Yue\_Han](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/eada6e/32.png) [@Yue\_Han](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yue_Han)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2000, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoiler-harry-potter-iv-spoiler/25049/70 "2000-07-30T05:00:29Z")
Maybe it did and they never mentioned it? I mean, the room was ALWAYS there, so they would have seen it years ago. But without speaking Parseltongue, they couldn’t get in. Unless they happened to look on the map and see that Ginny was there, it wouldn’t be of too much interest to them. –John ---
**Author:** ![Surgoshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Surgoshan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surgoshan)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2000, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoiler-harry-potter-iv-spoiler/25049/71 "2000-07-30T05:49:33Z")
Because the Chamber of Secrets was SECRET. Maybe it only shows everything that Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs knew of Hogwarts when they went there. Maybe the Chamber was ensorcelled so as not to be able to be seen on maps, Unplottable maybe. Because (here’s the good one) if it was easy to find, it would ruin the story. ---
**Author:** ![JosephFinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@JosephFinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JosephFinn)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2000, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoiler-harry-potter-iv-spoiler/25049/72 "2000-07-30T07:06:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kyla \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > - Did anyone else nearly wet their pants when Mad-Eye Moody transformed Malfoy into a ferret and bounced him up and down the hall? > > That was soo cool! But was that the real Moody? If not, why would he mess with Malfoy? > \*\* Perhaps the imposter was trying to establish himself as the character of Moody, one who had no love of Dark sympathizers. ---
**Author:** ![JosephFinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@JosephFinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JosephFinn)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2000, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoiler-harry-potter-iv-spoiler/25049/73 "2000-07-30T07:10:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by StGermain \* > \*\*Thanks, **Paradocs**. It was about 4:30 in the morning when I was reading page 667, and it was beginning to blur a bit. 🙂 > > As for the Dursley’s - the stories would lose a bit without them in it. I’d _love_ to see Sirius (or Snuffles) show up at the Dursley’s! > > Wouldn’t it be nice for Hagrid to find a Hagrid-ess (with some style) and settle down to raise some giant wizards? > > BTW - I want a house elf. I promise I’ll treat it well and give it plenty of socks! A mortgage-paying elf wouldn’t be bad, either. > > StG > \*\* I would love for Dumbledore to show up at the Dursleys’. Can you imagine him trying to be ever so nice? It would be even worse than Mr. Weasley… ---
**Author:** ![Surgoshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Surgoshan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surgoshan)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2000, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoiler-harry-potter-iv-spoiler/25049/74 "2000-08-01T06:47:44Z")
Dumbledore wouldn’t try to be nice. He’d start out quietly informative, but firm. Then, if they got noisy, he’d be more firm, and polite. If they got in the way, he’d move them aside. Never would he be nice, nor would he be anything other than calm. At least, I don’t think so. ---
**Author:** ![Ceejaytee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ceejaytee/32/2956_2.png) [@Ceejaytee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ceejaytee)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2000, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoiler-harry-potter-iv-spoiler/25049/75 "2000-08-01T21:52:57Z")
> [@](#): > > Perhaps the imposter was trying to establish himself as the character of Moody, one who had no love of Dark sympathizers. Another possible explanation is that Crouch, Jr. hates Lucius Malfoy–after all, he turned his back on Voldemort at the end (Voldemort’s end, not Potter IV’s). He hates just about everyone who was once loyal to Voldemort and who better to take it out on than Draco, the little ferret. Surel wrote: > [@](#): > > I was surprised though at how dark this book was for a series aimed partly at children. This is not shaping up to be a series for children. My husband pointed out that the books are maturing as Harry is. The older Harry gets, the more shades of gray are added to the story and the darker it gets–definitely more interesting. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoiler-harry-potter-iv-spoiler/25049.md?page=3)