# \*\*\*SPOILERS\*\*\* UFC - Griffin/Silva **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 9, 2009, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoilers-ufc-griffin-silva/505814 "2009-08-09T04:55:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoilers-ufc-griffin-silva/505814/41 "2009-08-26T19:42:28Z")
Between Lesnar and Fedor, I’d still give it to Fedor. I was reading about Machida’s much-touted elusiveness the other day, and his stats prove out that he’s the second least hit fighter in MMA. The least hit fighter ahead of him? Fedor, to the tune of something like less than one hit a minute. I’m not sure how much of that’s due to his elusiveness and how much is due to his tendency to end fights in the first round, but either way he’s a beast. Lesnar’s improving, but he was getting tired and frustrated moving his man-mountain self around in the Couture fight. If Randy had slipped an inch to the right I think we might have seen a different fight. And I think we might see a much different fight with Fedor. ---
**Author:** ![misterW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@misterW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misterW)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoilers-ufc-griffin-silva/505814/42 "2009-08-26T21:01:49Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > Fedor is the one heavyweight I definitely would not pick him over. Coincidentally, Choi is one of the few fighters who might be as strong or stronger than Brock, and we saw how that turned out. > > Frank didn’t train much off his back because he got cocky and thought it was going to be a standup war. > > I don’t think Fedor minded in the least having Coleman on top of him. He might have even baited him into that position. He wouldn’t use that strategy with Brock. > > I think his fight with Lesnar would go down a lot like his fights with fellow giants Zuluzinho and Tim Sylvia. Don’t get me wrong, I would not be terribly surprised if Fedor beat Lesnar. I’m sure he will be the betting favorite. But are you really comparing Lesnar with Choi and Zulozinho? Really? Lesnar is an amazing athlete, a D1 wrestling champion, with good jiu-jitsu. Zulozinho and Choi are oddities that have made a career by cashing in on the Japanese fondness for freak show match ups. For god’s sake, Choi’s last opponent was Jose Canseco! I don’t buy that Mir thought Lesnar would not take him down. Mir may be cocky, but he is not an idiot. The fact is, Lesnar displayed some impressive (albeit attribute driven) jiu-jitsu and completely stymied Mir’s guard work. As far as previous match ups with wrestlers have gone, I will admit that Fedor didn’t seem too bothered by having Coleman on top of him – but then, Fedor doesn’t seem to ever be bothered by…anything! In any case, the only two heavyweight wrestlers that Fedor has faced have managed to take him down a number of times – one of which (Kevin Randleman) was notable in that it appeared quite possible that Fedor would be killed upon impact! This will be the first time Fedor has faced a top notch wrestler who is also skilled in jiu-jitsu (at least in the areas he needs to be). And the wrestler happens to be enormous and hit like a truck. I could see Fedor catching Lesnar with a quick series of punches, much like he caught Tim Sylvia, but if Lesnar takes him down, I think he will take the fight. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoilers-ufc-griffin-silva/505814/43 "2009-08-27T02:42:11Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > Between Lesnar and Fedor, I’d still give it to Fedor. I was reading about Machida’s much-touted elusiveness the other day, and his stats prove out that he’s the second least hit fighter in MMA. The least hit fighter ahead of him? Fedor A. Silva is 3rd, and that’s _after_ factoring in 40 minutes of not getting touched by Cote or Leites :eek:. > [@misterW](#): > > I don’t buy that Mir thought Lesnar would not take him down. Mir may be cocky, but he is not an idiot. He said so himself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spoilers-ufc-griffin-silva/505814.md?page=2)